PLease Give a Voice to NPC that are given Quest

Hello Ashes,

I apolagise if if this question has been put and aswer already, but i will add it to be there for my peace of mind.

In my jurney throw life in gaming experience i foud it so boring when an NPC that gives you a quest does not have a voice and it has a generic text line. But when a NPC even a sideques or an none
related quest line, that gives you a quest has a voice it brings so much life in to the world it self.

Does AOC will have all NPC with voice in them? please make it so!

I am sure that as a comunity people will offer their voice to give life for an NPC if requiered! I will do if i will be ask if i can help!!!

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Maezriel

Gonna go w/ most here and say voice acting would be incredibly expensive and I'd rather that time and money be placed in making the mechanical foundations of the game better.

That said, I think a solid middle ground would be working towards giving each NPC a bit of personality through good writing. There's no reason every single Tavern NPC needs to be the Ashes version of Nurse Joy where they say the exact same thing over and over again.

Text is cheap to produce and store and I'd love to see AoC really push some fun variety such as having NPCs display joy or anger at changes made within a Node, terror at an upcoming siege, excitement for a caravan that's en route...even if it's just flavor.

Vhaeyne

Gonna have to say I am 1billion percent against voice acting of any kind in MMOs. I don't even want quests, but that is another argument.

Reasons why we should not have voice acting in MMOs:
-Story is not important in any MMO.
-Voice acting slows down production of the game.
-Voice acting has a budget and any amount of money spent producing sounds that I don't want to hear, is money not spent on bosses I could be fighting and armor I could be wearing.

I am going to turn down voices anyways. If they did not announce "Bear McCreary" as the composer I probably would not even listen to the music. Even so I will more than likely mute the game after the first week and play my own music in the background. This is the way.

daveywavey

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Story is not important in any MMO.

Without story, we're just running around hitting stuff with weapons. It's story that gives the game purpose and meaning.

Sov54

daveywavey wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Story is not important in any MMO.

Without story, we're just running around hitting stuff with weapons. It's story that gives the game purpose and meaning.

Player driven-story, with a nice background lore written in scattered tomes or told by key NPCs to those that want to learn.

I think that's what he meant, and I agree.

Way better than the theme-park, lazy written, everywhere, generic excuses for fetch quests that in some games are called story.

winner909098

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Gonna have to say I am 1billion percent against voice acting of any kind in MMOs. I don't even want quests, but that is another argument.

But, quests can help a newer player understand the mechanics in the game.

Vhaeyne

daveywavey wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Story is not important in any MMO.

Without story, we're just running around hitting stuff with weapons. It's story that gives the game purpose and meaning.

In a sandbox, the story what happens between you and your friends when you set goals in a world where other people are doing the same. All that is needed is some background lore that can be told at loading screens and in in game books.

winner909098 wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Gonna have to say I am 1billion percent against voice acting of any kind in MMOs. I don't even want quests, but that is another argument.

But, quests can help a newer player understand the mechanics in the game.

I did a thread a while ago about how tutorials could be a separate single player experience that happens offline. Similar to elite dangerous.
More importantly. People are smarter than you think. New players can just figure it out or better yet. Ask another player and socialize. Quests really are not necessary. It is a antiquated concept.

Noaani

Vhaeyne wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Story is not important in any MMO.

Without story, we're just running around hitting stuff with weapons. It's story that gives the game purpose and meaning.

In a sandbox, the story what happens between you and your friends when you set goals in a world where other people are doing the same. All that is needed is some background lore that can be told at loading screens and in in game books.

I disagree.

Every entity that is not a player in the game needs to have lore behind it. If our nodes are being attacked by a dragon, there should be lore there. If the castles are all occupied by various groups when the game goes live, there should be lore there.

Additionally, throughout the entire game, we should be uncovering aspects of what Verra was like before The Fall, and maybe even finding out what actually happened that caused everyone to leave.

There is some lore that Intrepid don't need to write for Ashes. They don't need to write stories in regards to different nodes being at war with each other, or how alliances are formed. This aspect of it is something that is up to us players, and in that regard I totally agree with you.

However, Ashes should have lore in relation to the actual land and to all non-player entities that is on par with the lore in any other MMO. This includes non-player entities that we meet in game, but also includes the entire history of both Verra and Sanctus.

Amma

I am the same opinion, that its more important to concentrate on the game mechanics and to ignore voice acting at the moment.

But i agree that the game would be more interesting if it had voice acting. If someone doesnt know an mmo with good voice acting, than you should try star wars the old republic. The starting area would already be enough to get a feeling for it. You can even choose what you want to answer in these dialogs.

Sure, you are right, if you are doing a quest in a dungeon for the 100 time, then everyone skips it, but if it is a normal quest in the world which you do only once, then nearly no one would skip it.

For me thats one of the things that lets you dive in the world of an mmo instead of just getting a text and afterwards complaining about stupid quests with "kill 10 of these and 20 of them", because if you hear someone talking then its far more interesting than just getting a wall of text, where you just klick on "OK", even if you still have to kill 10 of these, because its a voice that tells you why he ro she needs your help or something like that.

Maezriel

Amma wrote: »

I am the same opinion, that its more important to concentrate on the game mechanics and to ignore voice acting at the moment.

But i agree that the game would be more interesting if it had voice acting. If someone doesnt know an mmo with good voice acting, than you should try star wars the old republic. The starting area would already be enough to get a feeling for it. You can even choose what you want to answer in these dialogs.

Sure, you are right, if you are doing a quest in a dungeon for the 100 time, then everyone skips it, but if it is a normal quest in the world which you do only once, then nearly no one would skip it.

For me thats one of the things that lets you dive in the world of an mmo instead of just getting a text and afterwards complaining about stupid quests with "kill 10 of these and 20 of them", because if you hear someone talking then its far more interesting than just getting a wall of text, where you just klick on "OK", even if you still have to kill 10 of these, because its a voice that tells you why he ro she needs your help or something like that.

I'm mixed on this b/c there are plenty of examples in ESO where you just stand there while some NPC vomits exposition and it's just an absolute bore and the quest still ends in "Kill 10 boars."

Vhaeyne

Noaani wrote: »

I disagree.

Every entity that is not a player in the game needs to have lore behind it. If our nodes are being attacked by a dragon, there should be lore there. If the castles are all occupied by various groups when the game goes live, there should be lore there.

Additionally, throughout the entire game, we should be uncovering aspects of what Verra was like before The Fall, and maybe even finding out what actually happened that caused everyone to leave.

There is some lore that Intrepid don't need to write for Ashes. They don't need to write stories in regards to different nodes being at war with each other, or how alliances are formed. This aspect of it is something that is up to us players, and in that regard I totally agree with you.

However, Ashes should have lore in relation to the actual land and to all non-player entities that is on par with the lore in any other MMO. This includes non-player entities that we meet in game, but also includes the entire history of both Verra and Sanctus.

I don't mind some background lore in the game for those who want it. If I talk to a NPC, and he has the option to tell me some background information about himself or his place in Verra. That is fantastic. It is self contained and optional.

With the way the node system is. Every world will in theory be different. I am hoping that means that there is no specific main story quest with voice acted "main characters" I am not going to care about. I hope that every NPC will be a generic towns person with a few dialog options for RP. I don't think the world should have Main character NPCs. The main characters of the world should be the guild leaders who own castles and whoever has the most power in your node at the time.

I am still very adamant that some of the best stories I can tell you about video games happened in a sandbox. I can talk for hours about all of the crazy things that happened in Darkfall online or Ark: survival evolved and I literally could not tell you a single sentence about what the lore is in those games.

When I read the wiki and watch the interviews the game looks more like a sandbox than a sandpark or themepark. That is why I am all in on ashes.

Noaani

Vhaeyne wrote: »

With the way the node system is. Every world will in theory be different. I am hoping that means that there is no specific main story quest with voice acted "main characters" I am not going to care about. I hope that every NPC will be a generic towns person with a few dialog options for RP. I don't think the world should have Main character NPCs. The main characters of the world should be the guild leaders who own castles and whoever has the most power in your node at the time.

This part I totally agree with.

The thing is, we know - for example - that the occupants of the castles when the servers go live will be the main antagonists of the game, at least at the start. This requires some lore (who are they, where did they come from, how did they get to the castles before the rest of us?), and there is no reason at all to not also have some smaller stories around these characters.

Again, I agree that there is no need for stories around cities, their leadership or anything like that. This is a large part fo the lore in many games, and Ashes straight up doesn't need it. Obviously, this is something that is driven by players, and something that will be vastly different on each server

However, the major encounters that each node state spawn - as well as the monster coin encounters - should all have lore around them. This lore isn't necessarily important to play the game - you can kill a dragon without knowing what it is doing. However, if you are the kind of person that wants to know these things, the world will feel empty and lifeless if the information is not available.

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