Divine node mayor monopoly

I've made similar post about economic node and people helped me out and corrected my worries. My worry here is if divine mayor is picked by someone who's done the most service quests, then wouldn't the guy with the most service quest continue to be at the top? unless there's some catch up mechanic, if the guy is going full time service questing.

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Yuyukoyay

I like the idea of the counter returning to 0 every election period. If election periods are even going to be a thing for every node type. That way it's more in line with other nodes in how much they have to maintain while also giving other people a chance to usurp him.

If it doesn't reset at all then it might be too much power to one person if they constantly maintain it. I think you should have a fair chance to win it without having to war a node. Within reason. There isn't really anything fair about how economic nodes are structured, but it's still fair since everyone has the ability to succeed in the economy.

Divine nodes do seem to lack the limiting factor other nodes possess. So resetting the count every election period would put it at that level needed.

Warth

Noaani wrote: »

ThePhilosophile wrote: »

noobs can potentially take control of the node through doing leveling religious quests.

You are assuming there will be leveling quests that count towards mayor of religious nodes.

That is not a safe assumption to make.

@Noaani Personally, I'd hope that Divine Tasks for the Mayoral election won't provide any EXP or Gold at all. These should be done out of devotion to the Node, not personal gain. 0 rewards for the players itself would mean that only people who truely want to be mayor will do them.

Warth

Personally, I'd like to see a system, where about 2/3 to 3/4 of the accumulated Devotion gets removed each month.

This would primarily value the tasks done within the current month, while providing some importance to the past month, little importance to the month before that and a very minor influence to the month 3 months ago.
I don't think it should completely reset, as it will result in all the devotion farmed in the past being meaningless, making them an essential waste of time if you haven't gotten the Mayor Position.
A system with partial removal, would also reward those, that consistently put effort into the progression of the node, instead of those that simply nerded out for a month.

Example with 3/4 retention:

First month you farm 100 Devotion by the end of the electoral cycle.

Next month, you'll already start out on 25. Farming another 83 within the electoral cycle = 108 Total.

The following month you'd start with 108*25 = 27 Devotion

...

This would essentially result in the devotion colleced within the current month being worth 100%, within the past month 25%, within the month before that 6,25%, the month before that 1,5%, the month before that 0.4 % and the month before that 0.1%.

Which reduces the value of the task done the further they lie in the past.

Noaani

Warth wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

ThePhilosophile wrote: »

noobs can potentially take control of the node through doing leveling religious quests.

You are assuming there will be leveling quests that count towards mayor of religious nodes.

That is not a safe assumption to make.

Noaani Personally, I'd hope that Divine Tasks for the Mayoral election won't provide any EXP or Gold at all. These should be done out of devotion to the Node, not personal gain. 0 rewards for the players itself would mean that only people who truely want to be mayor will do them.

That is what I am hoping for as well.

Demidreamer

Noaani wrote: »

Demidreamer wrote: »

I really hope there aren't traditional "dailies", big ole time sink imo. and for why? I also believe that the system should be cumulative. I would rather have to hunt down whatever quests that are pertinent to religious nodes for credit than doing a boring daily that is most likely over farmed.

I would be surprised if it were outright dailies, but I would expect it to be repeatable quests/tasks of some form.

What ever it is, it absolutely will be nothing more than a time sink - which is all MMO's are anyway.

I've givin this a bit of thought and I would rather see a weekly rather than a daily. Also, if the weekly was on type of carousel that rotated through various quests, maybe even toss a few seasonal quest slots in also would add more variety. I guess the idea of a rotating carousel weekly would let the dev's create a more meaningful journeys across verra. This could take the course of days completing while journeying, rather than stagnant grind.

Auriel

daveywavey wrote: »

If they're going full-time service questing, then they deserve to keep it. If they slack off, the guy right behind them will take it.

Agree. Yet, are all quests in the node taken into account or limit to certain type of quests? I think that would be depending on the quest generating system, if the quests in the game is infinite (in the case where the number of quests which completed by hardcore 24-hours player is less than the new quests which will be generated everyday due to node progression) then there's no reason to include the daily quests in the calculation.

The idea of cycle is very sensible, you will not want the mayor of the node to change daily or hourly. If having or more toons achieving same questpoints at the cycle due time, then system can create a special quest for mayor candidates to race.

Noaani

Demidreamer wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Demidreamer wrote: »

I really hope there aren't traditional "dailies", big ole time sink imo. and for why? I also believe that the system should be cumulative. I would rather have to hunt down whatever quests that are pertinent to religious nodes for credit than doing a boring daily that is most likely over farmed.

I would be surprised if it were outright dailies, but I would expect it to be repeatable quests/tasks of some form.

What ever it is, it absolutely will be nothing more than a time sink - which is all MMO's are anyway.

I've givin this a bit of thought and I would rather see a weekly rather than a daily.

We had a discussion about this a few years ago on the forums, and almost everyone was completely opposed to any form of dailies - and it seems Intrepid agree with that. This is why I would be surprised if there were daily quests/tasks even for something as optional as node leadership contests.

Back when we had the discussion, I was a fan of the idea of weekly tasks rather than daily. Even if the task itself is exactly the same, and even if you are able to do it 7 times in a week, the fact that you are not missing out if you don't log in for a day or two (due to wanting to take your significant other out for the night, having other hobbies or even wanting to play another game on occasion) you are not punished at all by the game.

To me, this is important.

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