How can we give IS better feedback?

After this post by @bloodprophet I got hooked on a few more videos by Kevin Jordan (WoW Dev who worked on Vanilla to Frozen Throne) and he has pretty great insights.

He mentioned some of the difficulties he experienced with player feedback from a developer perspective. The ones that stood out to me:

The vocal 1% who sway the opinion of the sheep
Players asking for bad solutions to a problem, without properly grasping the underlying issue
Feedback tends to miss out on over tuned aspects of the game and devs only hear about the disappointing aspects of the game that need a boost

As we head into alpha 1, it's worth asking: Is there anything we can do as a community to be more helpful in how we give our feedback?

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maouw

@ThePhilosophile
Yeah, I was thinking more about the levelling process.
In this video, he was talking about how different stats drop off as you go into late game (hit rating vs armour pen)
He regretted that their designs completely disregarded stats that were useful early/mid and they became tunnel visioned on the ideal late game stats - losing sight of the transition to late game.

I agree you don't want scrub nub input for late game content, but I think his point is that late game players tend to be more vocal. So the danger is if you only listen to them, you lose sight of the bigger picture.

maouw

Marcet wrote: »

Not being egomaniac nerds that fill up 40 pages of a post trying to win an argument because they feel "atacked" by opinions. That'll help.

Agree. I feel like this is common with people who are fresh to the community. I know I was intimidated.
Coz newer members don't know we've had 89 discussions about PvPvEvX/Corruption/etc.

I think our instinctual responses to these "new" threads have sometimes been out of line and provocative.

ThePhilosophile

@maouw True, I think the difference of my perspective is that late game has always been the goal of all players i've played with. It's where the majority of the playerbase is and where the majority of the content is. Also most people I play with are competent and tend to pick up new things very quickly, as in, they just started playing rogue and are already 95% parsing level of competence.

As I mentioned before, early/mid game (meaning leveling) should be all about teaching the player about how their class functions, what is their optimal dmg or mitigation rotation, how to properly cc mobs and clear dungeons, and what items or stats are best for them. If a player reaches end game without learning all of the above, then the devs have failed in that aspect. WoW is guilty of this currently as early/mid game content is so easy, mobs die in one to two hits, you don't have to cc or interrupt in dungeons so people reach the end game and don't even know how to play their class and ask themselves why no one wants to play with them.

I am sure there will be thousands of guides when the game is released, but the goal of the game is that you should achieve 99% of your class's potential just through what you learned while leveling and doing early end-game content. if Intrepid can achieve this, then early/mid game won't be much of an issue.

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