In game Word Processing/Spreadsheet

I'd love to have an option in the in game UI to open a Word Processor/Notepad or a Spreadsheet. The only mmorpg I've ever seen with this functionality was Eve, and it was extremely useful. Not everyone keeps notes about stuff they do in game, but most of the website people get advice from were made by people who do. And some of us like this. Adding this won't hurt you people who don't like this idea.

Most of the time I have to alt-tab out of the game to keep notes. I'd like to be able to do that in game, and save them (maybe they save locally, maybe not). I'd also like the ability to send these through the in game mail system too.

Eve also allowed waypoint hyperlinks and other things to be kept in their word processors/spreadsheets , so you could be standing in a location and make a link for it, and clicking on it later would give you an active waypoint to that location. I think these are very useful addons to the game.

Artisan's would probably get a lot of use out of this feature too.

What do people think?

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Voidwalkers

As an aspiring crafter I'd love to have an in game spreadsheet that can be linked to my inventory.

In another thread people have suggested adding in game tools for guilds to track DKP, since "people will be using it anyway, and the devs might as well just make ppl's life easier". I don't see why the same cannot be argued for crafters' & traders' case - we will have spreadsheets anyway, and letting us import inventory data (either through API or adding in-game spreadsheets) would definitely save us countless hours of typing.

But then, as others have mentioned, there's concern for security, plus that's extra work for the devs.

But again (so many buts), since Ashes is aiming for a near 100% player driven economy, where artisans & traders are expected to play significant roles, I think having an in-game spreadsheet is justifiable.

At the bare minimum, if there won't be any in game spreadsheets, give us buttons to
- export inventory to clipboard
- export purchase / sales log to clipboard

Noaani

Dygz wrote: »

I don't know that I care whether a journal is "competent".
If it's the equivalent of a txt, fine. If it's the equivalent of a rtf, that's probably not worth the coding effort. And the equivalent of a doc is definitely not worth the coding effort.
Any form of spreadsheet, especially, is not worth the coding effort and is immersion-breaking.
So, while I am literally arguing semantics, I am not colloquially arguing semantics.

Also, I did not say "I am for a (note-taking) journal."
I said a note-taking journal could probably fit the fantasy-setting.

Coding?

Pull the resources off of github. That is how they would do it either way, the time involved is in deciding which resource to use, and in making a UI for it.

These things are common to both.

Dygz

Now you are the one arguing semantics.

Noaani

Dygz wrote: »

Now you are the one arguing semantics.

Semantics is the discussion of the meaning of words or phrases.

If you made the assumption that a word means a thing, and I say it means so nothing different, that is an argument of semantics.

That isn't what is happening here. You are assuming the developers would have to code a word processor from scratch, I am telling you outright that they would not need to do that.

Dygz

No, you are assuming that what I mean by coding is limited to literally writing new code for a brand new word processor.
And you are -as usual- mistaken.

Noaani

Dygz wrote: »

No, you are assuming that what I mean by coding is limited to literally writing new code for a brand new word processor.
And you are -as usual- mistaken.

So, your argument now is that by "coding", you mean literally anything other than coding?

The thing with semantic is that there need to be multiple valid use cases for the word or phrase. In a discussion on computer development, "coding" only has one meaning - writing computer code. Any other use of the word is just outright wrong, and the suggestion that this isn't the case is to suggest that people are now free to take any word at all, and apply any meaning they wish to it and still expect others to know what they are talking about.

This is plainly absurd, yet is literally what you are now suggesting.

If what you mean by "coding" is not actually coding, then rather that saying I made an incorrect assumption that the thing you say is the thing you mean, the appropriate thing for you to do is to say that you mis-spoke, and then correct yourself. It is not appropriate to expect others to read your mind - and it is not appropriate to say others are mistaken when it is in fact you that is mistaken.

You used the word "coding" as a catch all for development. That was incorrect, and a mistake on your part. Own that shit, rather than trying to make it appear as if others are at fault.

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And even then, you are missing the point. Your argument was that a simple text editor would be easier to implement, my point is that it would be no easier than a RTF editor, as in both cases all that needs to be done is selecting the editor desired, dropping the code in to the game and working the UI scheme in to it.

It could easily be argued that a full on word processor would actually be easier, as the part of this process that would take the longest is in deciding exactly which editor to use, and there are fewer full RTF editors than simple txt editors - so that process will be far easier.

Dygz

By coding, I mean everything that it takes to implement and test the feature to work properly in the game.
Should be easier to convey with the one word (especially in the game industry) than writing it all out in detail - except for asshats like yourself who like to argue over every little thing.
If what the OP is asking for is a simple text editor, I am OK with that. I am not "for" it. But, I also am not against it.
If what the OP is asking for is a "competent" word processor - which in IT is considerably more robust than a simple text editor - I think it's not worth the effort. A simple text editor should suffice. Developing and testing and implementing the UI to work with an RTF is more work than it would be for a simple text editor.
If what the OP is asking for is a spreadsheet, that, too, is probably not worth the effort and is immersion-breaking in a way that I think these devs will not implement it.

Again, I'm done with your absurd inanity in this topic.
You can win if you need to win.

Noaani

Dygz wrote: »

By coding, I mean everything that it takes to implement and test the feature to work properly in the game.

The correct words you want for this are "developing, testing and implementing", not "coding". Coding is one specific aspect of that development process. You need to stop trying to weasel out of situations where you make a small mistake and then attempt to defend it when asked for clarification, rather than just correcting your mistake like any normal person.

Every time I have seen you say you are "done with" a poster or a thread, it has been a result of you refusing to clarify something you either mis-spoke on, or were not clear on, and rather than simply admitting it and dealing with it, you double down and point fingers at everyone else around you.

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Once again, a comprehensive text editor would take Intrepid no more time than a simple one, because in both cases they would use an off the shelf plugin. If you can spend the same resources and get more functionality, that is a no-brainer. They would even be able to get a comprehensive editor with a built in spreadsheet if they wanted, so they could get all the functionality for the same amount of work as implementing a simple editor.

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