Would you freak out if...

Would you freak out and lose your mind if Steven started selling dyes in the monthly cosmetics shop?
(The price is $5)

(I don't know how to make a poll)
Yes!
No.
I don't like spending money on a game that is still 3 years away.

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Dygz

Yeah. And I just see an opening where, say, black dye is the most expensive dye, so they never release black-themed cosmetics in order to entice people to also purchase black dye.

Warth

Dygz wrote: »

Yeah. And I just see an opening where, say, black dye is the most expensive dye, so they never release black-themed cosmetics in order to entice people to also purchase black dye.

black costumes are the most desirable so tgey don't put any achievable ones in-game?

That opening already exists. Dyes wouldn't change a thing in that regard

Dygz

Compounds it.

Noaani

mcstackerson wrote: »

I agree but i'd like to give credit to the best dye distribution to warframe. Instead of selling individual dyes, they sell palettes that give you a lot of options.

After thinking about it, i kind of wish they would take this approach as it gives players the option to buy a whole color scheme which is nice when you are playing with colors and trying to find your look. If they released the palettes for each monthly cosmetic pack, the palettes themselves could still be unique but they could still use the colors from those palettes in future palettes. This allows them to avoid the issue of players never being able to get a color because it was unique to one months cosmetic pack.

I like this idea.

Would be interesting if we had the ability to purchase a pallette as a permanant thing, costing maybe $50+, giving players the ability to apply any color from that pallette to any item they wish - clothing, mounts, housing decorations, whatever.

I also like the idea of them selling cosmetics on the store (once the game is live) without a native color, and offering it up with a single use of a specific pallette, or allowing players to use one they already have.

That way, when a new item comes out, you don't see a third of yor friends all running around looking the same - everyone has to select their own color.

ThePhilosophile

Personally I would be against the idea, I think it would be better for it to be a part of the different professions of the game. I mean, just to remind you guys, we are paying a subscription for the game, there's no need to incentivize more purchasable cosmetics than necessary. Additionally, it would act as a resource sink so that lower tier resources always have value. I mean, Mounts and pets, are enough as it is, lets not make every potentially cool cosmetic idea into a potential cash shop item.

Vhaeyne

I would be pissed. This would take money and jobs out of the in game economy. It goes against everything I stand for.

Voidwalkers

Definitely won't freak out. making & running an mmorpg is a business after-all.

winner909098

Why would I freak out? Its a small change that helps generate money to improve the game.

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Atama

@skafftaruss What the Hell, man?! Even for you that was disturbing. This is a thread about dyeing clothes.

winner909098

@skafftaruss
What are you trying to say? You first say he is the best. Then you say he sucks. Then you say that people should get information that isnt ready yet because of their race. Then you say you are racially colour-blind. Please verify what you mean.

Leiloni

Atama wrote: »

I have a potential problem with dyes in general, whether they come from the cash shop or in-game.

We've had it at least hinted that certain "exclusive" items might be acquired in other ways, but in a tinted form. So maybe you have a special orange version of a cloak that is a November 2021 cash shop exclusive. But you can earn a purple version of the cloak from a quest.

Then you get the cloak from the quest, and get some orange dye and apply it, and now you have the Cloak of Autumn or whatever. The "exclusive" cloak isn't exclusive at all.

Basically, I'd like it if Intrepid doesn't promise one thing and do another. They've done that before but I figure anyone can make mistakes. If it becomes a habit then it means you can't really trust them at all.

When they say stuff like that I get the impression it's far more than just a color change. I see it as the difference between these two dudes - same body, different color pattern, sometimes more textures added as well like we saw with the recent forest dragon, or here you see different fur patterns.

Ravudha

sunfrog wrote: »

Would you freak out and lose your mind if Steven started selling dyes in the monthly cosmetics shop?
(The price is $5)

(I don't know how to make a poll)
Yes!
No.
I don't like spending money on a game that is still 3 years away.

Yeah, I'd be worried.

If dyes were only available in the cosmetics shop, then I feel it'd go against the principle of providing cosmetic options in game that are on par with the options of customisation available in the shop. It'd push people to the shop.

It might be OK if dyes are available both in game and the shop but only if both colour options were somehow seen as comparable (e.g. shop has variants of in game colours rather than monopolising whole segments of the colour spectrum) and the most popular colours (primaries, black, white) are available in game.

Personally, I think having all dyes in game would be better and a great way to fill out artisan classes with crafted items that are not combat related.

Atama

Leiloni wrote: »

Atama wrote: »

I have a potential problem with dyes in general, whether they come from the cash shop or in-game.

We've had it at least hinted that certain "exclusive" items might be acquired in other ways, but in a tinted form. So maybe you have a special orange version of a cloak that is a November 2021 cash shop exclusive. But you can earn a purple version of the cloak from a quest.

Then you get the cloak from the quest, and get some orange dye and apply it, and now you have the Cloak of Autumn or whatever. The "exclusive" cloak isn't exclusive at all.

Basically, I'd like it if Intrepid doesn't promise one thing and do another. They've done that before but I figure anyone can make mistakes. If it becomes a habit then it means you can't really trust them at all.

When they say stuff like that I get the impression it's far more than just a color change. I see it as the difference between these two dudes - same body, different color pattern, sometimes more textures added as well like we saw with the recent forest dragon, or here you see different fur patterns.

I hope so. That would definitely take care of the issue. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

sunfrog

Whoa, what did I miss? This thread is very popular. :smiley

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Tarvald

I do not like the idea.

We are paying a sub for a reason, dye's are different than Cosmetics.

Cosmetics are somewhat unique skins that have variants in the game somewhat so it's understandable that they would be in a shop.

Dye's however, are a non-unique aspect of the game, colors if you will. By putting these in a cash-shop you not only run the risk of snowballing into other items, see replies above about the color black on certain gear-sets etc, but you also remove an aspect of the global economy and of "living in the world". We pay a sub for a reason.

Cosmetics are one thing, but resources, goods, mats, crafted items in the cash-shop are entirely another thing. I would absolutely hate this idea, and would given the opportunity vote against it in every regard.

It damages the economy, it repeats what trash eastern MMORPG's and money hungry indie devs have done, and just removes from the in-game world in general.

I would rather wholeheartedly pay a sub and a box cost before I would entertain the idea of something even as small as dye's being in a cash-shop

ethiric

I agree with Tarvald. But I would only concede basic dyes being sold. Intermediate to Advanced dyes need to be earned / learned / traded for a vibrant and living economy.

maouw

If there's a basic pallete that everyone has access to, I think it's ok.

But like others have pointed out - it's preferable is dyes are part of the crafting system.

I think this could be better implemented with patterns - instead of dyes.
You have basic patterns that everyone has access to (stripes, polka-dot, checkers, etc.) and then premium variations of the basic patterns in the shop.
Then you dye the patterns to the colours you want

OnlyOne

Vhaeyne wrote: »

I would be pissed. This would take money and jobs out of the in game economy. It goes against everything I stand for.

Brings a valid point. What if there are artisans dedicated to making dyes for our equipment? Then would having that option for sale just be giving the finger to said artisans? I haven't taken this perspective into account.

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