Player Collision [Blocking & Passing]

Rather than "sticking" or "blocking" to the other player I think they should provide an animation and a slow-pass de-buff. Assassins Creed has this mechanic and I know Steven and everybody at IS has thought of it by now.
I want my character to be able to pass by the opposable player and not hit it like a block.

If IS could implement a mechanic like this, I think it would be on par to revolutionary game-play as well, not including all the other mechanics.

This type of game-play would be advantageous to assassins and rogues for moving behind enemy lines as they could be unseen. I would still wonder as well of what type advantages they would have with just "block-collision" or if they would be blocked at all once cloaked.

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Maezriel

I dunno how this would work in combat though where two melee would essentially be eternally slowed just due to proximity.

perseus01

lol I thought of this....Red Dwarf and Yellow Dwarf constantly staring each other down because of stat based passing. haha

Nagash

For a game like mordhau or chivalry this would be fine but for an MMO it would get tiresome quickly

perseus01

Nagash wrote: »

For a game like mordhau or chivalry this would be fine but for an MMO it would get tiresome quickly

I would think being blocked all the time 'cause collision would be more tiresome, though.

perseus01

I think you could make it "work" if the pass-through was more of a shrug exactly LIKE Assassin's Creed, bro. If the "shrug" was strength based you would therefore have a smaller window of time the stronger you were. So perhaps assassin's would suck with this if they suck in STR, lol. Then as a warrior I could "catch" them and do a knock-back solution. F Yea, bro,

perseus01

Unless the shrug movement was Dex based also, then I wouldn't catch the little bastard.

Leiloni

perseus01 wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

For a game like mordhau or chivalry this would be fine but for an MMO it would get tiresome quickly

I would think being blocked all the time 'cause collision would be more tiresome, though.

Other MMOs have done collision and it works out really well. It's not a new idea that Intrepid is just doing for the first time.

perseus01

Leiloni wrote: »

perseus01 wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

For a game like mordhau or chivalry this would be fine but for an MMO it would get tiresome quickly

I would think being blocked all the time 'cause collision would be more tiresome, though.

Other MMOs have done collision and it works out really well. It's not a new idea that Intrepid is just doing for the first time.

I know and it has always been an idea of mine to have collision in an MMO. I mean that was just general knowledge for me in my head when I played an MMO since I can remember. I'd like to be "real" and beefy, so I can just generally kick your ass. But perhaps this is a phasing idea into the past and it needs to be iterated into the future in a new fashion.

perseus01

I actually would do this exact method if I ever made an MMO. A shoulder pass animation depending on your left shoulder or right shoulder if you were to collide and 25% speed reduction; decreasing from %25 as your dexterity increases. In other words not full collision-detect, but rather half-mass collision and a stat-based animation.
Steven, may you hear my words and bless us with this inevitable collision idea. I can already see the group struggling man, come on. Give it to me!

I know this has been done, but shit my brain is loving this **** right now, lol. Give to US!...

ThePhilosophile

Personally I think collision between players would be a good thing as long as its outside cities. it makes it so more squishy back line characters can actually rely on melee to shield them. in other words, just like in real life medieval battles where you actually had to flank or use cavalry to gain access to the back line archers and skirmishers.

perseus01

That's the thing though, there is still collision with my proposal. Let's say if you collide straight towards the target, you won't go any further, you should stop. However if you go to an angle around the target, then you do a shoulder pass if on the correct path. If an army wishes to establish its presence then, it is still a struggle to get past.

Sathrago

just dont make it possible to block off areas with body count and it should be fine. Im all down for being able to slowly shove someone out of the way if they are in your way. If they push against you then after a few seconds you phase through them .

perseus01

Sathrago wrote: »

just dont make it possible to block off areas with body count and it should be fine. Im all down for being able to slowly shove someone out of the way if they are in your way. If they push against you then after a few seconds you phase through them .

You're absolutely correct. I would hate to be trapped inside a building because of this nonsense. It's a phasing idea into the past that needs to be addressed.
I would think multiplying half the radius of each Player and reducing the stat-base Speed would give a real-time collision effect.

So each player will still have half their real-time perimeter index as mass, so you would have to effectively go around half of their body mass.

That's cake-walk and satisfies half the mess.

perseus01

I don't like the stat inhibitor anymore. Frankly just the idea of half-mass collision sounds F******* legit, TBH.

Michael

Full collision is better than a de-buff in my opinion. Other MMO's did collision and it worked out alright.

Khronus

This game should NOT have collision and we should be able to pass through each other with ease. You think corruption conversations are annoying? How about not being able to enter a building, turn in a quest, go into your own free hold. There is nothing wrong with walking through each other.

Leiloni

They've already said that you'll be able to push other players out of the way if they're standing in a doorway and this is something I've seen other games do already.

perseus01

Leiloni wrote: »

They've already said that you'll be able to push other players out of the way if they're standing in a doorway and this is something I've seen other games do already.

Really? Neat. I was hoping they had something like this, so this makes it easier to accept for the ears now. Thanks Leiloni for the information.

Nagash

I now want to "Sparta kick" people in game

perseus01

Nagash wrote: »

I now want to "Sparta kick" people in game

Exactly what I was thinking.

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