No Dailies. No Chores.

Hello Forum Users, It's been awhile since I've posted.
I was an active user on the old website but decided to step back while the same threads and questions seemed to get repeatedly asked and answered over and over again. Looking at the current threads it appears not much has changed since then. However it's nice to see an active growing community.

Now I have no doubt these issue have been already discussed previously but i am going to lay another spread on the MMO destroying fall back player incentive of the 'daily quest' and routine 'login chores'

You all know what I'm talking about.... That slightly uncomfortable sensation of feeling forced to log into a game to perk up the (global population statistics) but have no real community input/interaction as you numbly go through the motions to fulfill some arbitrary tasks...then when done, log out because the incentives are not really there to keep playing for FUN.

So what I would like to see from Ashes is no Dailies or Login rewards or accumulative bonuses.

Let me decide my motivations and tasks for the day and give me a drive to not want to log out...not the bread crumbing tactics of trying to keep me logging in.

Any current MMO that has these sort of systems to me appear desperate and not confident in the merit and foundation principles of their game.

Dear Intrepid, do not fall for this genre trope, it will not bode well for the longevity of the game.

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nilv

Dailies are the most disgusting mobile gaming tactics that you can pull off in a video game. It’s just awful, If you want to do that stuff then make it at least weeklies. I Don’t really have issues with that.

Battle pass with fun cosmetic rewards and weekly quests is the way to go.

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Dreoh

There's a reason people see Wrath of the Lich King as the beginning of the end for WoW

That was when they introduced dailies.

Saedu

Dreoh wrote: »

There's a reason people see Wrath of the Lich King as the beginning of the end for WoW

That was when they introduced dailies.

Personally I think Legion was their best expansion so far. The introduction of M+ dungeons was one of the best innovations they ever put into the game. It took dungeons from being a entry level end game only activity to a mechanism for challenging repeatable (non-grindy) content. Especially for players who like difficult pve, but don't like to raid.

WoW has never been strong with world content as a primary end game progression activity. I don't think their approach with daily is too bad now as they feel totally optional (and well balanced with more important weeklys). I could go multiple weeks without doing any dailys right now and not feel like I'm missing out on any critical character progression, but they are there if I'm looking for some solo content in my downtime between group activities. That's what daily quests should be. I'd rather have optional daily world quests then a feeling of nothing useful to do.

Percimes

Dreoh wrote: »

There's a reason people see Wrath of the Lich King as the beginning of the end for WoW

That was when they introduced dailies.

There were daily quests in Burning Crusades. I know, I've done some of them and it's in good part what killed it for me. I stop playing WoW a good 5-6 months before WotLK.

I don't mind repeatable quests, I don't mind if there is a limit on how many times you can do some of them per day. For some quests that could even be only once a day.

The difference between a repeatable quest and a daily quest in my book is that you do the first because you want; the second, you do it because you must or are penalized if you don't.

Merek

Dailies always translates to, "We can't actually create engaging content, so here's a bunch of bullshit fetch/kill quests for laughable rewards.". If I do anything daily, it should be engaging, not some christmas calendar garbage.

Tyranthraxus

Yours truly approves of daily missions as a way for other players to grind money, in MMO's - but you shouldn't be missing out on anything by NOT doing them. A shop is a much better option, but not everyone will have the time.

DesyncGaming

No dailies, no chores and no login rewards they add nothing I want to come into the game and do whatever I want not be told how to play and I don’t want to feel bad because I couldn’t log in one day and ruined my login streak or something ridiculous

winner909098

Just sit back and enjoy, everyone! I love when communities band together.

Gannito

Without daily tasks please, they are useless.

I already organize myself, if I have to collect / hunt etc, thank you.

Thulf

I'd be fine with these so-called "daily quests" if they were optional and varied (in quantities, types, distances, etc), handed out as means of progressing the node (accumulate wealth/materials/renown/etc) whilst giving you a small cut, and player-run tavers (place to start the journey, form parties, etc) were a distribution hub for those "daily" quests in a pick-and-choose manner (with rulers having a say what goes and what not as they play the political game in the background). If it was tied to the game world like that rather than feeling like an otherworldly (cash-shop) feature (extension)...

Something like that, you get the point (non-artificial, immersive, community driven, purposeful, and fun).

Gbolt

Please no daily quests or daily login rewards. In short term, they make you urged to play daily, but long term it makes you quit game, because of that awful feeling that you must log in every day and do same thing to not miss out on some rewards.

Better let player decide what he wants to do in a game, instead of forcing him to do dailies. And by forcing I mean, that usually dailies involve best rewards or stuff you cant acquire otherwise.

Volgaire

The amount of times I felt obliged to log into BDO to complete the newest event/daily/time rewards etc is insane, the game stop feeling like a game and instead feels like a job.

Yuyukoyay

Completely against the idea to have daily, weekly, etc of any kind of content in the game whatsoever. That is completely against what MMOs stand for and every game that ever implemented them are worse for doing so with no benefit whatsoever.

The problem with them is they are systems that limit play time or force catch up mechanics. However, that is the formula to just kill any game you stick those in. People don't like to be told to play another game instead. Genshin Impact right now really suffers from breaking the barrier into being a main game people play because it actually limits your progress daily unless you pay real money. Though the game does well money wise due to whales and stupid chinese players. It probably shouldn't be used as a measure of success when they might get outlawed in the future for being that way.

Most companies don't look at the data for this properly because it gets overshadowed by other things the game does right. I do know that it is an issue that if you asked every single streamer who plays the game they will say that dailies suck.

These kinds of practices are why this game is being made to begin with. So I have utmost confidence that dailies how they are implemented in most games these days won't be in Ashes. I just don't like dailies even if there was a better way to implement them. Scummy practices to force people into games are actually a big reason why people quit those kinds of games to begin with.

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