Character creation question

Since voice acting is minimal I assume that picking characters gender in cc will simply switch the way npcs address you and such through text. So I was wondering if it would be possible to introduce pick your gender/pronouns button instead of it defaulting automatically to the bodytype you pick?

I don't believe this would introduce too much additional work for the coding but would mean a lot to queer players. Thank you in advance!

Ps: if you are as a player isn't interested in this you can make a masculine looking character and pick "man" or vice versa without losing anything because it was added.

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tautau

Just because it doesn't matter to you, doesn't mean that it doesn't matter A LOT to someone else.

PS Handsome Jakx, the word is 'moot' not 'mute', speaking of things that don't matter to most people.

maouw

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Biccus wrote: »

Riessene wrote: »

Those... ARE.....genders.

I’m not interested in learning the “correct” sex based terminology for dwarves, elves, orcs and Tulnar. Nor should I be forced to for political correctness.

Male and female is easy enough for me.

For Tulnar the pronouns are (was/were).

THIS GUY IS ON A ROLL

ahahahaha

JamesSunderland

tautau wrote: »

Just because it doesn't matter to you, doesn't mean that it doesn't matter A LOT to someone else.

Yes, this is true, the problem is, if IS would take everyone's personal "important" minor changes it would create a insane amount of possibly not very relevant small changes clogging truly important and meaningful major implementations.

Thats why some people makes threads to show their opinions of a possible small additions and see if it ressonates with other people in order for it to have appeal to a vaster public and raise its chances of being implemented.

Handsome Jakx

tautau wrote: »

PS Handsome Jakx, the word is 'moot' not 'mute', speaking of things that don't matter to most people.

Noted lol

Jirue

From a developer perspective, it's a easy adjustment. If the system is already set up to check dialog tree adjustments based on a gender, then it's as simple as moving the flag it's checking to a separate variable and database column so it's not pointing at the same variable holding the value of the now "appearance specific" gender variable and database column. So arguments of "developer effort" are nonsense. Where it would lie on a priority in relation to other to-do items though is something only the folks actually managing the project's timeline can say.

Cypher

Yeah I don’t think any game devs should coddle people who want this. Scientifically (real science) there are only male and female with a ridiculously small number of people who are born with both...sets. As some have already suggested here, if you want to role play as one or the other, make your character accordingly. Even if you consider that this is a fantasy game, surely choosing from a range of fantasy races and a choice of male or female of each is enough. If not, that’s just too bad. Society can’t accommodate a 0.00001% slice of the population who will be emotionally hurt by this, with all due respect.

grisu

I have 2 issues with that.

1. Where does it stop? Your question might be innocent enough but if the shit that's been going on recently hasn't shown it enough. It's not just adding one pronoun currently. It's adding 100 because everyone wants their own special little call card now.
It's not just a pronoun, why can't i have the female animation as a male character? It's not much work it's just ticking off a box that makes the game switch out the animations. Why aren't there options to make the slider go a bit more into the masculine/feminine. It kicks open a can of worms of "you made this much accommodation? Just this much?"

2. Your main point is to be addressed by npcs as your prefered pronoun which makes absolutely no sense in any way shape or form unless they already know you and you told them specifically. If you want to be hugged in a fantasy game, you might want to actually change your rl situation and I'm talking from personal experience. If it's that bad, a game won't help. (as a note, I doubt it's that and I doubt your request is that innocent from how that first post reads, but you never know)

akabear

The line that has already been drawn will create a reasonable framework because lets have a glance at the rabbit hole if it had to be delved into

Ethnicity
Race
Religion
Sexual orientation
Personal Pronouns
Language
Semantics
Disability
Age
Height
Weight
IQ
Game rating
Profanity
Game latency
Political position

That is a 2min thought, I can`t imagine how long the list might be if to consider all and how directing to be better address one area may in fact inadvertently affect another.

daveywavey

akabear wrote: »

The line that has already been drawn will create a reasonable framework because lets have a glance at the rabbit hole if it had to be delved into
Ethnicity

Race

Religion

Sexual orientation

Personal Pronouns

Language

Semantics

Disability

Age

Height

Weight

IQ

Game rating

Profanity

Game latency

Political position

That is a 2min thought, I can`t imagine how long the list might be if to consider all and how directing to be better address one area may in fact inadvertently affect another.

"I want to play as a Human that identifies as an Orc, so I want to be a green-skinned Human, and I want the religion from World Of Borecraft that I've been playing for the past 12 weeks, and I want to only have one leg cos I identify as a one-legged Orc, and I want one half of my body to be really really fat and the other really really thin to represent the multiple sides of my personality, and I want my character to be so stooopid that he drools all over his fat arm, and I only want Spanish profanities filtered out, and ..."

Vhaeyne

daveywavey wrote: »

"I want to play as a Human that identifies as an Orc, so I want to be a green-skinned Human, and I want the religion from World Of Borecraft that I've been playing for the past 12 weeks, and I want to only have one leg cos I identify as a one-legged Orc, and I want one half of my body to be really really fat and the other really really thin to represent the multiple sides of my personality, and I want my character to be so stooopid that he drools all over his fat arm, and I only want Spanish profanities filtered out, and ..."

I am fine with profanities from any language, but those Spanish ones really hurt.

maouw

Vhaeyne wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

"I want to play as a Human that identifies as an Orc, so I want to be a green-skinned Human, and I want the religion from World Of Borecraft that I've been playing for the past 12 weeks, and I want to only have one leg cos I identify as a one-legged Orc, and I want one half of my body to be really really fat and the other really really thin to represent the multiple sides of my personality, and I want my character to be so stooopid that he drools all over his fat arm, and I only want Spanish profanities filtered out, and ..."

I am fine with profanities from any language, but those Spanish ones really hurt.

My highschool friend called me "chico" just because I never knew what it meant.
:'(

Recluse74

akabear wrote: »

The line that has already been drawn will create a reasonable framework because lets have a glance at the rabbit hole if it had to be delved into
Ethnicity

Race

Religion

Sexual orientation

Personal Pronouns

Language

Semantics

Disability

Age

Height

Weight

IQ

Game rating

Profanity

Game latency

Political position

That is a 2min thought, I can`t imagine how long the list might be if to consider all and how directing to be better address one area may in fact inadvertently affect another.

Might as well call the game "Ashes of Twitter" at that point lol.

Vhaeyne

Recluse74 wrote: »

Might as well call the game "Ashes of Twitter" at that point lol.

Which is the same as calling it "Ashes of Destruction".

Nagash

I love threads like these I get to bring out the big guns

Rhuell

Oh, I love Steven's icon!

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