Action-based combat any worth ?

Now I come from a very hardcore pvp type of background dating all the way back to darkfall and mortal online where player skill on reaction, maneuvering, movement and stat management in the heat of battle decided your outcome. You could last against several players by only pure skill awareness and understanding of weapon type management.

Action-based combat gives exactly that, only a friction of it we have seen so far in the apocalypse version, yet what if the combat system expands more on it. The game could drive to become the next best pvp game what me and my boyz would look immensely forward to, especially since fast paced combat was always our thing, instead of the tab targeting which takes away a big chunk of skillset.

So far I have read that action based combat will be more rewarded, perhaps bigger cc's? more dmg output? I guess these kinds of advantages could decide some outcomes in mid battles. We will see. Will it be any useful and good in Ashes of Creation while having tab targeting around? I have high hopes for it to become more skillbased than just having abilities spammed in the right time and have some proper pvp coming out.

These are just thoughts that hopefully will find following. As a former pvp veteran I am looking forward to some challenging and exciting battles.
Myrmex over and out.

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ThexBlackxKnight

RocketFarmer wrote: »

Comparison that a lot working on AoC have experience in would be Planetside 2. y.

think the intensity of an FPS style of play would be interesting for an MMO RPG, especially 500 vs 500 battles. Some might find it too intense.

As a player of planetside 2 I don't think fantasy mmorpg players that never played a fps game will be able to handle the sure intensity of large scale battles in that game where you need a lot of skill and knowledge just to stay alive longer then one minute in bigger battles. Although combat in the game like Chivalry in a mmorpg would be interesting.

Vhaeyne

Dygz wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

The game is already like this when you use the Action Combat Mode.
You are right we may be arguing about nomenclature here. I hope I have clarified things a bit.

Trax wrote: "Former Darkfall and mortal player also, very much hoping for a viable FPS style combat like we saw in APOC. We’ll see…"
I responded: "RPGs should not have FPS style combat. I wouldn't categorize APOC as FPS style combat though."
And then, in your reply to me, you only quoted "RPGs should not have FPS style combat..." removing a key qualifier in my post.

In a post shortly thereafter, I included a section at the end that said: "But, again, I don't categorize APOC combat as FPS moves. So, that really could just be 'semantics'. If the concept is APOC moves but is labeled FPS moves...sure, I'm OK with that."
And then you argued with the first half of that post as if I never said the second half of the post.

Sorry it took me so long to respond. I have been a little busy.

Maybe it is semantics, but many video game terms do not have set definitions. If you are cool with the APOC style/the action controls we currently have then we are arguing about nothing.

Percimes

If the combat system of For Honor could be adapted for ranged and support somehow I wouldn't mind at all if it became a thing in MMO. Works great for melee. Some abilities should stay on a tab targeting system or become passives, but the action combat feeling would be very immersive.

Grihm

Generally speaking, the combat system should be created after the world, setting and overall feeling of the game. This especially since this is not simply a Moba match by match game... it´s an RPG.

Also to this, it´s an advanced RPG with tactics, politics, titles, city structure, crafting etc etc... so every piece of the puzzle must fit with the other.

From what i have seen from videos on fighting, it looks very fluid so far, tho a bit too fast and too clicky for my taste. Still, it looks very good in the broader sense of it all.

If fighting goes too slow = Age of Conan, we end up with combos that can take several seconds each, and are horribly balanced, and you get a " win " class that everyone spams.

If fighting goes too fast = Any game where the fight looks like a stroboscope had a seizure on LSD with particle effects and rainbow colors over the entire screen, and a lot of people would leave due to epilepsy risks or just massively disappointed in the system.

Keeping it leveled, but aiming for following the ambiance and setting of the world.

Pelver

yes totally!

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