What about several guilds of one community?

It is trouble of RU Server BDO, and noone fix it. For example: one community about 1000 people, and they create Three guilds for 300 people

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Yuyukoyay

Mega guilds are not known to actually quit games until the game is dead. So it would be luck if they quit because of the boredom their own actions caused.

Dygz

Steven already has measures designed to disallow mega-guilds from controlling an entire section of the map.
Seems like we should test how well those work before we assume they won't work.

Bekengizer

Dygz wrote: »

Steven already has measures designed to disallow mega-guilds from controlling an entire section of the map.
Seems like we should test how well those work before we assume they won't work.

It is hard task. I don't know how will we test it.

tautau

@Bekengizer I think that the testing will consist of playing the game for a while and see how it all works out. Betas will give us some information about this, but we will really need to get into the game for a year or two and see what happens, I think.

McShave

tautau wrote: »

If a mega guild controls everything, I agree it will be boring. It will also be boring for many in the mega guild, right? They will drift off to other games or servers or maybe get a girlfriend or a puppy. Anyway, the mega guildies will drift off, thus weakening the mega guild.

Then the rest of us can kick the remnants out of power and fight over it all ourselves.

I agree that when the mega guild which cannot be stopped has ruled the area for a while and have world bosses and dungeons on farm for a couple months, the guild will start to lose many players who are bored. I expect there to be a discord server for each server, so people can keep up to date on current events. So using that, it will be much easier for the rest of the server to team up against the mega guild.

Dygz wrote: »

Steven already has measures designed to disallow mega-guilds from controlling an entire section of the map.
Seems like we should test how well those work before we assume they won't work.

That is funny, because I remember Steven saying the exact opposite. He has said that he is ok with large guilds and he wants the players to team up and work against them.

Dygz

I didn't say Steven said he is against large guilds:

"What traditionally happens in a non-faction-based game where politics drive player interaction... Over time you have betrayals in the mafia guild and they splinter off into two groups and join the other side or it's like weird things that can occur in that regard. So I think that's the important way that will solve itself. I don't think the developer necessarily has to step in there and say no, let's railroad this politics or let's hand hold this aspect. I think that any time you have a bully, you're going to have a counter bully and that's something that we try to encourage as part of the politics process.

One of the things that I think will naturally combat the the risk that comes with one mega corp or one mega guild owning the server so-to-speak and killing off competition is that Ashes is constantly changing. So the way that nodes spawn and despawn and can be destroyed; and the castles exist to exert pressure; and these world events pop up. It's a massive world and it's constantly changing. Those two things naturally combat the opportunity for mega guilds to claw control over a particular server."
---Steven Sharif

Bekengizer

Dygz wrote: »

I didn't say Steven said he is against large guilds:

"What traditionally happens in a non-faction-based game where politics drive player interaction... Over time you have betrayals in the mafia guild and they splinter off into two groups and join the other side or it's like weird things that can occur in that regard. So I think that's the important way that will solve itself. I don't think the developer necessarily has to step in there and say no, let's railroad this politics or let's hand hold this aspect. I think that any time you have a bully, you're going to have a counter bully and that's something that we try to encourage as part of the politics process.

One of the things that I think will naturally combat the the risk that comes with one mega corp or one mega guild owning the server so-to-speak and killing off competition is that Ashes is constantly changing. So the way that nodes spawn and despawn and can be destroyed; and the castles exist to exert pressure; and these world events pop up. It's a massive world and it's constantly changing. Those two things naturally combat the opportunity for mega guilds to claw control over a particular server."
---Steven Sharif

Ok will be five Mafia guilds who will control the server, because can be only five Metropolises. resourse: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Metropolis,
and it is boring too. I think we need 8 or 10 Metropolises. It dicide
problem, maybe.

Dygz

No way for you to know until we are able to play so, for now, what you think is moot.
You have insufficient evidence to support what you think.

Bekengizer

Dygz wrote: »

No way for you to know until we are able to play so, for now, what you think is moot.
You have insufficient evidence to support what you think.

Lineage 2 and Bdo is my proofs=) There was same guilds and they control all.
There intersting opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR6YpGRNC_I&t=63s

Jahlon

3 guilds of 300 people is allowed. In fact 4 guilds of 300 people for a total of 1200 in one alliance is already part of the game.

Not sure what the problem is here?

Maezriel

Jahlon wrote: »

3 guilds of 300 people is allowed. In fact 4 guilds of 300 people for a total of 1200 in one alliance is already part of the game.

Not sure what the problem is here?

I don't think there's a problem, certainly nothing that needs to be addressed by the devs. That said, there are guilds where these mechanics will be little more than speedbumps. We will have some realms where the Metros, Castles, and more are dominated by a handful of mega communities...Anyone w/ Eve experience shouldn't be surprised about that

I just don't think it'll be an uber-widespread problem across the entire game

Solvryn

Jahlon wrote: »

3 guilds of 300 people is allowed. In fact 4 guilds of 300 people for a total of 1200 in one alliance is already part of the game.

Not sure what the problem is here?

They don't know how to sew seeds of discord and learn how to utilize spies properly. That's the problem.

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