No jumping puzzles. I am serious.

I play Guildwars 2. There is a lot that they did right with that game. However having played enough of the game, there is one idea I do not want in this game.

I do not like the jumping puzzles that permeate throughout the game. I play games like these to compete either against computer or human opponents. I hate exact precision jumping just to get to an area for a chest or mount. Jumping is fine if the jumping is easy to do. Having to scale something only then to fall off because the mouse did not stay in that little pixel area is frustrating and not fun.

Please do not put jumping puzzles into this game. Concentrate on balancing encounters not terrain.

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DavyDrones

I have high hopes of jumping puzzles being added.They are one of my favourite content. I love how WoW coppied the Vistas from GW2. Also i am enjoying a lot the jumping puzzles in FF14 and GW2. The way FF14 added them is nice. you not only climb but you collect stuff on your way up. And don't let me start about GW2. There are small and huge ones. The diversity is big and the maps have all kinds of layouts.

unknownsystemerror

Don't know why this topic was ghost necro'd. Never was an issue they were going to take serious, no matter with all the great jokes from the topic line of "Nice to meet you Serious, I am Unknown."
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Template:Jumping_puzzles

JustVine

Nerror wrote: »

I love jumping puzzles! But they shouldn't be for content players have to do to be competitive. It should just be for fun and perhaps a small reward at most.

I second this.

Fairtale

I am not the biggest fan of jumping puzzles, but I don't see how having them in the game would make my gameplay worse in any way.

As long as it is not content I am obligated to participate in, I am ok with it. To each his own

This type of content only becomes a problem when it is the only way to receive a reward.

So for example: instead of having a jumping puzzle that is the only way to receive a certain mount, have a rare-mount vendor, and multiple games spread through the world, which players can OPTIONALLY complete to purchase and pick one of several mounts.

No player should be able to collect all the mounts anyway IMO. That way no one feels obligated to do all the content.

This is just an example, not saying there should be a mount vendor.

Sunboy

I 💕 puzzles in all forms.

Dreoh

As someone who did play GW2 fervently, I absolutely want jumping puzzles in.

Aerlana

jumping puzzle can be fun, another kind of challenge in the game. GW2 did implement them well : it is a mandatory content only if you aim specific things, like achievment, or legendary weapon (in GW2, legendary stuff is not "bis" it is more about skin and QoL )

I like doing jumping puzzle, but it remains a solo thing.
I would happy to see those in AoC BUT not being mandatory, some exotic/special stuff skin or just some good panorama view or cute spot with nothing "usefull" (most jumping puzzle in GW2 is bind to nothing but simple achievment)
It has to remain 100% optionnal

Also, for the game, the exploration part of the game, it is a good way to do allow it farther in some place where a way to simple walk on would look quite surprising. not "realist". One of my favourite jumping puzzle in GW2 was the one in a volcano where you travel from the bottom to the top, and "visit" the inside of this volcano this way.

3Snap

I want jumping puzzles. Nothing in the game should be mandatory no matter what it is. And if that's the case, then you can always not do it.

Smol

Jumping puzzles was the best thing GW2 did right IMO, exploration is a great thing to have, the puzzles were rewarding in that regard. I hope to see them in AoC, specially if they add some unique only once in a server rewards.

Arya_Yeshe

Mahes wrote: »

I play Guildwars 2. There is a lot that they did right with that game. However having played enough of the game, there is one idea I do not want in this game.

I do not like the jumping puzzles that permeate throughout the game. I play games like these to compete either against computer or human opponents. I hate exact precision jumping just to get to an area for a chest or mount. Jumping is fine if the jumping is easy to do. Having to scale something only then to fall off because the mouse did not stay in that little pixel area is frustrating and not fun.

Please do not put jumping puzzles into this game. Concentrate on balancing encounters not terrain.

GW2 player here, I do love GW2 jumping puzzles... and I don't like that in other games... but in GW2 is quite good!

Plus, in the last expansion there's that boss which the respawn is a flying plataform and it flies around the boss flying plataform and you gotta glide from the spawn plataform to the boss plataform... some people miss the landing and die instantly... ITS DAMN GOOD

I would rather Intrepid do jumping puzzles and fail than not trying at all, if they do this right it will be a blast for many people, even tough i'm not that kind of public I recognize people love that

Guild Wars 2 jumping puzzles are so amazing and I hate that kind of stuff, but it's so good in there!

WHIT3ROS3

I like them. Jumping puzzles, Mysteries, Riddles, Hiddle places.... The Nooks and Crannies of Verra should be "filled" (not overwhelmed) with cool fun activities. Verra is a 1200sqkm sandbox. There is plenty of space to include all manner of different types of content.

novercalis

Holy Necormancy, what is dead should be left alone....

Now I hope AoC has a huge tower with 1 boss at the top and the only way to get there is, JUMP KINGing your way to the top.

Arya_Yeshe

novercalis wrote: »

Holy Necormancy, what is dead should be left alone....

Now I hope AoC has a huge tower with 1 boss at the top and the only way to get there is, JUMP KINGing your way to the top.

Sound good

Also, I would add this:
-the more times you completed the tower the faster plataforms would crack and break, giving more chance of failing the tower

LOL, is this too sadistic?

bloodprophet

novercalis wrote: »

Holy Necormancy, what is dead should be left alone....

Now I hope AoC has a huge tower with 1 boss at the top and the only way to get there is, JUMP KINGing your way to the top.

Make it a 40 person raid and we have a deal.

AidanKD

It baffles me that something so harmless as jumping puzzles is under attack. Nothing competitive has ever been locked behind Jumping Puzzles - it's just a nice opportunity to incorporate fun activities and it's entirely optional.

By the same logic should we disable aiming for abilities and hitboxes because it might result in potentially missing targets?

Let the game have fun things that are just fun. I'd like them tied more to achievements, lore and if they are linked to achievements then fulfilling certain criteria could unlock mounts, pets or transmog, whatever. Non-competitive rewards basically.

Arya_Yeshe

AidanKD wrote: »

Let the game have fun things that are just fun. I'd like them tied more to achievements, lore and if they are linked to achievements then fulfilling certain criteria could unlock mounts, pets or transmog, whatever. Non-competitive rewards basically.

Absolutely, I would rather a game be crammed with fun things for the sake of fun rather than being crammed with grindy things

GrilledCheeseMojito

Big fan of the jump button in general speaking.

All I ask is that you don't catch From Software syndrome and fill the world with narrow wooden beams you need to jump between.

AidanKD

I just want to add because I've seen a rhetoric which I find really odd.

"If i wanted x in my game I would play y".

We could apply that to literally anything.

If I wanted to do pirating I would play Sea of Thieves
If I wanted to fight difficult bosses I would play Elden Ring
If I wanted to decorate a house i'd play the Sims.
If I want to catch and tame animals i'd play Pokemon.
If I want to do farming I could play animal crossing.

Yes I am exaggerating, but isn't the whole point a lot of us are very excited about Ashes of Creation because they are incorporating things that we all love in other genres, into an MMO? Like all of the above - in addition to the Node system, PvP, Crafting, Housing, Farming. The game is aspiring to take a bunch of elements that players love and merge it into a single game and this has been very well known and likely what drew a lot of people in.

I don't think there is a simple necessarily working template for an MMO. If you just make a new template MMO with open world, instanced raids and PvP - gathering, crafting and bobs your uncle you have yourself an MMO - but it's not going to be interesting at all as we have enough of that. Bringing something new to the market is how you standout and I think Intrepid are doing right by incorporating things like this.

MybroViajero

The problem is not the jumping puzzle, the problem is the design and sense given to the jumping puzzle.

Good jumping puzzle > > > > bad jumping puzzle

I really don't think anyone would complain about a good jumping puzzle if it is well designed, if it has a clear meaning, if it has its difficulty but has a good reward or if it is designed for something and for a purpose that will help the players in the end.

You may or may not like jumping puzzles but if jumping puzzles are designed to "give you something, unlock something interesting, get more information/Lore, get a rare material, or anything that benefits the player" then I think it is much more positive than negative to have jumping puzzles.

In the end, jumping puzzles are for fun, there may be jumping puzzle designs for tryhard players and there may also be jumping puzzles for players who just want to have a good time jumping.

PvX jumping puzzle lol !

Veeshan

Im all for them tbh just dont force them on people (Like GW2 Halloween event the clocktower jumping puzzle) felt like they were mandatory to do for holloween event but the Jumping puzzles in the game is not required to do so thats fine but a nice little easter egg if u stumble across them in the world.

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