Fleeing with Mounts while in combat

Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but being able to insta-cast your mount and ride away from danger seems kinda lame.

A few ideals to fix this:
-some type of mounting animation coupled with a 2-3 second timer to fully mount
-have you mount spawn off screen and run to you thus adding a small time delay
-make your mount summon take 2-3 seconds and be interruptible
-make the mount attackable and have it flee from aggro

Would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this.

Thanks in advance!

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Kaishang

1yardshort wrote: »

Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but being able to insta-cast your mount and ride away from danger seems kinda lame.

A few ideals to fix this:
-some type of mounting animation coupled with a 2-3 second timer to fully mount
-have you mount spawn off screen and run to you thus adding a small time delay
-make your mount summon take 2-3 seconds and be interruptible
-make the mount attackable and have it flee from aggro

Would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this.

Thanks in advance!

Hopefully summoning mounts takes a few seconds. Yes to be able to kill someone's mount with maybe a cooldown until they can resummon it. Never really liked the "spawn off-screen" summon ... I want to see the animation of them spawning.

Mrhubbard

It may just be that when the game is officially released people who run away on their mounts would be seen as bad pvpers

JustVine

I think this conversation is missing a key discussion perspective. Anyone who dislikes instant mount for aesthetic/immersion reasons please ignore me as my argument is purely gameplay related.

Ganker attacks Gatherer. Gatherer ponies up and flees.

Is the Ganker unable to summon their own mount? If they do and can't catch up the head start...

Why is a proper ganker lacking in the fastest aggressive steed they can buy or raise?

If they do, then shouldn't they be able to knock the gatherer off their mount and resume attacking the now prone gatherer?

In other words it shouldn't MATTER that it's instant. Mounts should have abilities that can dismount other players and give the dismounter advantage. After all its a knockdown that isn't tied to your unmounted cc. Mounts should be an integral part of the combat system.

You may not have realized it but if you are pro timer over instant you are for lowering the relevance of mounts to combat. Think of it from a risk reward point of view:

As a gatherer you want to lower your loses. If your mount gets damaged, you lose profit in the time and resources to fix it.

If there is a timer longer than activating a high damage ability where is the incentive to activate your mount in a gank situation?

You risk, getting hard cc'd interrupting your summon. You risk the person with cc 'waiting' to damage you send your mount just for grief. The chances of proper mounted escape are slim. You still risk even more resource lost than if you had just stayed fighting due to the way death penalty encourages combat. The cost benefit analysis just doesn't add up to me.

I will go as far as to say no serious escapee is going to use their mounts in a gank situation. Why risk damaging your mount on top of getting even more damage because you cant run away while summoning in such a system. Just do a basic attack and accept death and be rewarded with lower resource loss.

We should be encouraging the risk of damage to your mount and getting dismounted vs the reward of possible escape. We should be encouraging this for the health of the animal husbandry economy and to encourage more masterpiece worthy design and thought from IS.

What I propose instead is a cooldown timer after being knocked off. Keep the insta mount. Make quick dismount a valuable mount ability for ganking. Add in subtle interplay of mount abilities so that there are valid differences in mount builds and things aren't one or two singular best builds so both players have to actually think of how to catch or escape an unknown opponent.

Yuyukoyay

I like instant mounting if the mount being damaged slows it down. The problem with instant mounting is usually being no downside to it. However, if they introduce downsides to being mounted in combat then I'd love it. Always feels stupid to charge a mount like a spell when in real life you would just jump on and run away. xD

akabear

@JustVine I would have thought that summoning a mount once flagged would not be possible.

George_Black

akabear wrote: »

@JustVine I would have thought that summoning a mount once flagged would not be possible.

I am curious to see if mounts will be anything more than speedboosts.
Mounted combat will take a lot of development in order to be meaningful. Otherwise nobody will give a damn and if that is the case and you can summon while in combat to run away, then we are in for tedious open world pvp.

Let's wait and see.

maouw

akabear wrote: »

@JustVine I would have thought that summoning a mount once flagged would not be possible.

I think we could?
I remember popping out of a Siege in A1, and for some reason the game flagged me purple but I mounted up and got stuck in the river (coz I didn't know about [H])

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