Every encounter doesn't need to end in PVP

I have played Mortal Online 2 a few times with friends. It's very PVP-focused. The group I play with are PvErs with some PVP when needed to defend ourselves. Having the optional VOIP really change some of our confrontations with other players. Many times we were able to trade and become online friends just because of the option to speak. Things move very fast when meeting other players not know their true intention. I know some fellow players don’t like open comms, which I totally understand, but with the ability to turn off or on (with the default being off) we can experience some emergent gameplay rather than just ending with pvp. I’m really looking forward to the caravans, being on either side of things.

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McShave

+1 for the "we want voip in Ashes" crowd. Thank you for your contribution, VOIP should be in Ashes.

mcstackerson

This is one of the reasons I like VOIP. Allowing convenient communication can really change player interactions.

George_Black

Voip or not this is what I like about open world pvp.

You choose who you help, who you ally with and who you become friends with, instead of queuing up for a 20min instanced run and not say a word (I am playing ff14 2 days now. Havent said a word to anyone), or ignoring EVERYONE while you do one easy quest chain after another.

You choose who you fight, who you mark as a kill-on-sight, who you go to war with, as opposed to queuing up in a bg, fight for 15min, or force to fight blue or yellow or red alliance, or Horde or Alliance.

Real human interaction, guild gameplay, player driven story.

Kaishang

mcstackerson wrote: »

This is one of the reasons I like VOIP. Allowing convenient communication can really change player interactions.

Exactly!... Many times we were outnumbered and no way could have escaped, but using “charisma

” we were able to talk our way out of danger and even now have made allies.

Kesthely

Kaishang wrote: »

I have played Mortal Online 2 a few times with friends. It's very PVP-focused. The group I play with are PvErs with some PVP when needed to defend ourselves. Having the optional VOIP really change some of our confrontations with other players. Many times we were able to trade and become online friends just because of the option to speak. Things move very fast when meeting other players not know their true intention. I know some fellow players don’t like open comms, which I totally understand, but with the ability to turn off or on (with the default being off) we can experience some emergent gameplay rather than just ending with pvp. I’m really looking forward to the caravans, being on either side of things.

My pvp gaming experiance comes from a totally different background. We use comms all the time, in fact we hop in comms before we hop in game to get a update of whats happening. For me it would be unthinkable to use a non secure (passworded with background checks if your not a spy before your allowed to enter) in a game of what i hope Ashes will become for my player group. So we'll still be using that most likely.

That said, Voip is a low entry form towards such systems, so i'll give you a +1

Sathrago

Voip as always is a double-edged sword but I believe it's worth having despite the downside of increased Modern Warfare lobby type "conversations". Being able to shout out that you are friendly or will leave an area instead of typing it is just super useful for the less pvp-inclined people. It's also useful for players that want to gain a reputation of lying about being friendly lol.

If it's easily implemented and not gonna push the development back by an insane amount I believe it would be a nice addition to the game. However I would not say it's a must have.

Noaani

If the game has proximity chat, many players (likely most, tbh) will turn it off. This means these opportunities like in the OP will be rare.

If the game doesn't have it, it means players can make that first introduction via text, and then move seamlessly to voice chat simply by inviting the people to a group (or inviting a group to a raid).

Most players are not going to turn off group/raid voice chat, so this should always be an option.

mcstackerson

Noaani wrote: »

If the game has proximity chat, many players (likely most, tbh) will turn it off. This means these opportunities like in the OP will be rare.

If the game doesn't have it, it means players can make that first introduction via text, and then move seamlessly to voice chat simply by inviting the people to a group (or inviting a group to a raid).

Most players are not going to turn off group/raid voice chat, so this should always be an option.

The option to meet with text is still there with VOIP. I'm not sure how many people will keep it muted but it's a more convenient way to communicate which means more people will communicate then if it wasn't present which I see as a positive in a social game.

Bot

Typing in chat exists

mcstackerson

bot wrote: »

Typing in chat exists

You type with the same input device you use to control your character. Not only do you have to use your keyboard but also your hands. You can use voice without stopping control your character. It's also something you can take in with your ears, instead of your eyes which you use more often to control and react in-game.

To type you have to stop controlling your character and to read what is being typed, you usually have to look away from what your character is doing.

When something is more convenient to use, people are more likely to use it.

maouw

mcstackerson wrote: »

bot wrote: »

Typing in chat exists

You type with the same input device you use to control your character. Not only do you have to use your keyboard but also your hands. You can use voice without stopping control your character. It's also something you can take in with your ears, instead of your eyes which you use more often to control and react in-game.

When something is more convenient to use, people are more likely to use it.

That's a fair point.

Sylvanar

Noaani wrote: »

If the game has proximity chat, many players (likely most, tbh) will turn it off. This means these opportunities like in the OP will be rare.

VOIP would enable sending messages without the use of hands --> no need to leave yourself defenseless for that duration.
VOIP would enable receiving messages without the use of eyes --> better control of character cuz we dnt need to read the message.
VOIP makes communicating far more convenient than the default solution of typing everything and managing different chat windows for different chats like guild chat, node chat, world chat along with talking to friends.
So I believe other than extremely casual/new players, most people would have it on. After all, convenience always wins. Moreover it shouldn't be very hard to implement.

daveywavey

I've had more negative experiences with random open comms than positive ones, so I'd most likely be keeping mine turned off. Having said that, if there are enough players wanting this, I don't see why it shouldn't be an option.

Dygz

Ashes has voice chat in the design. "Fully functional for your mute/chat preference."
It's not proximity-based.
Dunno if it will be available outside of a party/raid/guild/siege.

Ramirez

Voip is needed in new gen mmorpg, last night i had had an similar experience in New world, i was doing an quest and two guys from the enemy faction start to gaking, and i start ,saying "wait wait, you are doing the quest selfless nature you will need to kill an elite mob?" they stop and we joined forces to do the quest.

In the end we did it, both had low hp, so i kill them and can t stop launghing all night..

daveywavey

Ramirez wrote: »

In the end we did it, both had low hp, so i kill them and can t stop launghing all night..

Merek

New World as a whole proved that VOIP in open world games is garbage. You'll either get zero response because people are too busy on Discord/tabbed out auto-walking to their location, horrendous music spammers or the PVP players that talk the usual shit. It's dumb and unnecessary, if implemented it'll barely be used, just like the 'Raid VOIP'.

BaSkA_9x2

I will have proximity VOIP turned off 100% of the time, I will only use group VOIP.

However, I am not against toggleable proximity VOIP. It won't make any difference to me, as long as it doesn't hurt the game performance.

Marcet

When I see this I remember how much I love proximity voice chat in Rust...

But in Ashes I don't know if it would work equally as good, I very much doubt it.

Gankez

voip would be great ..just make sure to put in a toggle to mute it.. that way when someone starts being a dumbass you can just mute and unmute after u kill the fucker

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