$15 per month

I appreciate that this topic could get a little "emotional", but I figured it would be good to gauge opinion.

Inflation is always with us.

If by the time Ashes releases the sub cost was higher, say $20 per month, how would you feel?

How do you judge where your value-for-money vs. affordability threshold is?

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Yuyukoyay

The best ideas are often never used because businesses don't value what the customers want.

If you appeal to what the customers want then you will gain goodie points with them to care less about bad points about your game. A really bad downside to have in your game is the price to play it being too high for the lowest paid. Since every single time they turn the game on they will question why they are even still playing it no matter their experience in the actual game.

Games die because the majority don't like it. While no one is including mobile players in this number. It's a lot better to have it be cheap and them to question other systems. Than to question it every time they turn it on. xD

Wyborn

Who all was in this median income? If someone makes 1 trillion dollars a year and someone makes 25,000 a year what is the median income?

Noaani

Wyborn wrote: »

Who all was in this median income? If someone makes 1 trillion dollars a year and someone makes 25,000 a year what is the median income?

Median income of a nation is a fairly well documented metric.

Since that is the only mention of median in this thread until you said it, I have to assume that is what you are talking about.

Median income is a reasonable indicator of a number of things over time. When comparing the actual cost of a service 18 years ago to the actual costn of the same service today, median income for each year is the appropriate metric to look at.

McMackMuck

You got me thinking about how much disposable income people have around the world, which led me to this website.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/03/24/how-your-disposable-income-compares-to-other-peoples-around-the-world/

The definition of "disposable income" is after taxes and deductions. Therefore it does not cover rent/mortgage and the plethora of ongoing cost of living expenses that cover "first world basics" (food, gas/electric, water/sewage, car/transport costs, local civic fees/taxes, home insurance, mobile, internet, etc.) that many have before they are left with the actual money they can afford to spend on Ashes.

Mxyzptlk

20$ ok if the movements of our avatar are worthy of assassin creed

Schmuky

A higher-average substitution is fine as long as the game is good. BUT keep in mind, if we get even a wiff of P2W, people are going to leave. In droves. Also for 20 dollars a month, the skins that are available in the store need not surpass the in-game ones.

Atama

Schmuky wrote: »

A higher-average substitution is fine as long as the game is good. BUT keep in mind, if we get even a wiff of P2W, people are going to leave. In droves. Also for 20 dollars a month, the skins that are available in the store need not surpass the in-game ones.

How do you objectively quantify that though? To me some of the skins are amazing (and I bought a lot of them because of that), I think others are awful and I'd pay to not look like that. How can you say that one thing "surpasses" the other?

I believe that Steven has made the only fair compromise you can... That while the skins in the cash store are unique, there will be very close variants available in-game. I think that's the best anyone can do.

Vhaeyne

Gaspard wrote: »

20$ ok if the movements of our avatar are worthy of assassin creed

Surely, you jest, sir?

DeadlyDave

I'd say that if the game is good, i would be willing to play for years & years, so with that in mind i would not be wanting to pay more than £12 a month.
You get into £15 a month thats £180 a year plus the initial buying cost, plus the cash shop starts to become a costly hobby.
At the end of the day Steven needs to pay wages & make a profit, just don't be greedy.

Vhaeyne

vordan wrote: »

I'd say that if the game is good, i would be willing to play for years & years, so with that in mind i would not be wanting to pay more than £12 a month.
You get into £15 a month thats £180 a year plus the initial buying cost, plus the cash shop starts to become a costly hobby.
At the end of the day Steven needs to pay wages & make a profit, just don't be greedy.

No initial buying cost for Ashes. That is Stevens gift to you.

McMackMuck

vordan wrote: »

I'd say that if the game is good, i would be willing to play for years & years, so with that in mind i would not be wanting to pay more than £12 a month.
You get into £15 a month thats £180 a year plus the initial buying cost, plus the cash shop starts to become a costly hobby.
At the end of the day Steven needs to pay wages & make a profit, just don't be greedy.

As @Vhaeyne stated, no box cost.

Cash shop is cosmetic only, no p2w, completely optional.

I'm sure that there has also been mention of a discounted sub for longer periods (6 month or 12 month), but I can't find the quote. Maybe it was just wishful thinking on my behalf!

RazThemun

As long as they do not charge box prices, I would have 0 issue doing $20 a month.... one can simply unsub if they don't have the funds that month. I think them doing the cosmetic store would make it less likely of needing a higher monthly sub fee. $20 is one hour at work for me, that can possibly result in over 40 hours a month of log in time entertainment. Good trade if you ask me

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