So will it be possible to earn/convert in game currency for (Embers) Cash shop currency?

I would like the feature. I think it would bury the issues with the cash shop cosmetics as it stands.
People/players who have more time to play and less real world funds can work* their way to a cosmetic purchase via an in game currency sink...More active players on the server, more incentive to stay subscribed, bigger population motive.

consumers with bursting wallets can still buy the (embers) with $ and purchase cosmetics too...

win win.

To clarify this is not a 2 way exchange. $--->Embers (cosmetics)<---game currency.

Unlike GW2 $--->Gems<--->gold.

So you cannot P2W buy gold. Just to be clear.

Obviously this is Hypothetical. Embers are not an entity as of yet merely eluded too.

But any Topics regarding them seem to be ignored or overlooked. So I'm bumping up Embers into a possible discussion again.

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Spurius

What they said is:

I want to incentivize purchase in the cosmetic shop for sustainability of what expansions we have intended, since we are not a box cost.

one of the ways we augment the revenue flows to sustain constant updates and new chapter releases and additional content within the game is through a cosmetic-only marketplace

What it means is:
The money we earn from the shop we will use to do more updates.

What it does not mean is:

Noaani wrote: »

the subscription itself is not enough to maintain and add to the game

Noaani wrote: »

they need money from the cash shop to maintain the game

Noaani wrote: »

the revenue from the cash shop is needed to maintain the game and continue adding new content

No one was saying that the shop is "needed", required or necessary. No one was saying that the subscriptions money alone is "not enough" (whatever that even means).

Spurius

Noaani wrote: »

So really, the argument for adding a means to buy embers with in game gold is really an argument for less post launch content for the game - because that is the result it will have.

I have an idea. Let's sell the best gear in the game for embers.

So really, the argument for adding a means to buy gear with embers is really an argument for more post launch content for the game - because that is the result it will have.

Noaani

Spurius wrote: »

No one was saying that the shop is "needed", required or necessary. No one was saying that the subscriptions money alone is "not enough" (whatever that even means).

Cool. Take that argument up with Steven, see how far you get.

Uncommon Sense

Noaani wrote: »

Uncommon Sense wrote: »

So many contradictions of people seeming unable to grasp the concept of a 1 way conversion.

And you are still unable to answer the question of where is Intrepid going to make up that lost revenue?

I don't revenue would be lost infact I believe more people would be inclined to purchase embers when normally they wouldn't because they would have the option to supplement their time and expenses in and out of game.

While also encouraging more players that wouldn't play to subscribe long-term. Thereby increasing the overall population and thus adding even more social incentives to support the game via the Ember purchasable.

I didn't answer your 'question' because I don't believe it had merit to begin with in such a narrow consumer perspective.

Noaani

Uncommon Sense wrote: »

I don't revenue would be lost infact I believe more people would be inclined to purchase embers when normally they wouldn't because they would have the option to supplement their time and expenses in and out of game.

Can you point to a single case at all, ever, where this has happened?

Or are you just saying you think it would happen to support your argument and avoid having to answer the question?

Caww

Initial interest in AoC will probably provide plenty of subscription money for the early years but so many games move to sub free/micro transactions that its a real possibility a cash shop offering services/upgrades will be required down the road. The non-PTW efforts for now are fine and they should stick to their current plans and see if it works out.

insomnia

The game has a referal code (there was some issues with it. So not sure they got it working). So if someone signs up using your referal code, you make 15 % of the money they spend on the game. Like from the subscription code.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Referral_program

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