Playstyles you would liek to see in AoC

Figured we could have a little fun and suggest some play style you would like tosee in AoC could recommend a class too that you might think it work well for,

Summoner

Enchanter (Summoner/Bard) This play style would forgo traditionals pet summons to more summons that augment via enchanting enemy/allies equipment this would play more as a support role however does do some dmg still, Some of there enchants will apply a negative or possitive effect depending if used on enemy for example casting a weapon weight enchant would be lighter for allies (Allow for faster attack) or heavier weapon on enemy slowing there attacks, They can enchant equipment to be more resistant to certain dmg types. enchants should be low mana cost but constantly drain mana over time till they get removed from there targets, there should be a way to regain mana aswell mayve enchanting an animated weapon which will attack enemies gaining a stacking buff to where the enchanting dismisses the weapon they regain mana based on the buff count.

Necromancer (summoner/cleric) - Summons undead summoners these pets applies debuffs depends on the current summon and necro have spell that interact with the debuffs for example summon ghoul applieds disease debuff which stacks 10 times reduces healing by 5% per stack however a necro spekll can transform this debuff into a DoT when they use a certain spells in there kit, i feel they should have life steal spell in there kit and maybe a way to transfer their heal to heal their summons (Or maybe players too)

Beastmaster - Kinda wouldnt mind seeing this class be able to transform into the beasts they summonm too getting a new skill set could be interesting

Ranger

Strider (Ranger/fighter) This one i think should be all about swapping from melee to range so zipping in and out of melee and range, melee attacks should apply buff to the range attacks and range atatcks should buff there melee to incentise swapping weapons (Should probaly get a dash to get into melee and a disengage ability to accomodate)

Falconer - I would love to see falconers have the ability to channel a skill to see/control there falcon in the sky to be used for scouting from the air

Anti tank class (Soulbow maybe) - Wouldnt midn seeing a class where there base dmg is lower that all skills however there attacks penetrate armor so they do more dmg than players on tanks but less dmg on lightly armored as a trade off, Soul bow might make sense here basicly his attacks target the soul over the physical being there for bypassing armor but overall they have much less dps basicly they be cxounter to tanks but weaker to ligherly armored.

Anti aoe class, I would like to see a class probaly a tank class like a spell shield possibly that has the ability to pop a short duration shield that greatly reduces aoe dmg this is to allow for a way to bust through choke points in seiges without being aoe to death trying to get through a door way by 50+ players :P having a couple of these in a seige would allow for a couple groups to push through and distracted the aoe player in there form the doorway for everyone else to push though.

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HumblePuffin

Veeshan wrote: »

Uthehoe wrote: »

I Usually play tanks. The one gripe i have with other MMOs is that threat is a PVE strictly stat. It would be kind of neat if threat would make a player tab back to the tank so that the player is disrupted and has to readjust there aim. Kind of like a very mini taunt. If i time my threat abilities right i have that chance to take a spell instead of my team mate however a person still has full control of there character and can still go back to the initial target. Could even make it a bar that a person has to fill with threat by attacking and using abilities so good tanks will know how to manage there threat well. This would also give the tank an additional tool in to get people to target them instead of just blowing by them and bursting your healer and dps.

Taunting players in PvP imo should reduce there dmg output to everyone else but the person who taunted them there should be of course some indication to show who taunted you aswell. Lets say taunt reduces dmg output of a person by 75% to everyone but that person who taunted them for 5 second or so or till the person who taunted you takes x dmg from you.

This is how taunts work in PvP in SWtOR basically. I personally loved it and main tank in that game. Tanks are hugely important in PvP in that game

Aion also did an amazing job with their tank classes in PvP. They dish out a reasonable amount of damage but their big thing in that game is the amount of control they give over the battle field with knock downs/backs, stuns and pulls.

I could see the tank/bard Argent working somewhat like the chanter from Aion. The chanter also had lots of knock downs/disruption(everything does in that game), but it’s main gimmick was the 3 mantras (static AoE buffs) they could have up at a time. The “mantras” would effect the group if they were close to the character, and even though you had general ones that were preferred to be up you would rotate through them as necessary.

I like the idea of tank/bard placing buffs on allies that would cause negative effects to enemies when that ally is attacked. So many possibilities with that; damage, mezzes, slows to movement/attack speed, all or partial damage being redirected to the caster of the buffs, reflecting damage from attackers. Sounds fun.

Hectorelpelon

Lithion wrote: »

I'm just really hoping that tank and cleric have some really awesome classes that can compete with pure tank/tank and cleric/cleric in their role. I'm hoping the meta ISN'T just always tank/tank is the best tank or cleric/cleric always has the best healing numbers.

I'm probably going cleric so here's some cleric ideas I think would be cool:

Cleric/Bard (Scryer): This is a class I have high hopes for, if done right it could be more useful than pure cleric in raids I think. For this class I think it should give different buffs in addition to healing. It would be very useful if your AoE heal now to also boosts DPS and everyone would be trying to stand inside the AoE while burning down a raid boss. Also maybe on the cleric whip attack or spear throw it can also give the target a debuff like slowed slightly or 10% damage reduction. I'm just thinking of bards and all the buffs and debuffs they could apply that would be fun to mix with healing abilities.

Cleric/Tank (Apostle): Of course with the tank secondary I would hope for some damage mitigation abilities for yourself but not only that, I would love to see you be able to pop magic shields on people you heal, or give them extra defense/damage mitigation with some heals.

Cleric/Ranger (Protector): Would be awesome to shoot people with healing arrows. Also the AoE damage spell instead you could shoot one glowing golden arrow in the sky and it rains down arrows on that AoE zone. Also instead of throwing a light spear its just a big light arrow.

Cleric/Mage (Oracle): It would be cool if this class added in some splash damage and elemental effects like on the cleric whip if it was coated in lightning and when you strike someone lightning can arc off that person to anyone also within 5 feet or something. On the spear throw it could be a flame spear and on impact it explodes and does a small AoE fire damage and knockback. For the AoE heal and damage circle it could be a ball of ice you launch and splashes into a frozen zone of ice on the ground that does damage and heals that also slows any enemies that wander into it.

Cleric/Summoner (Shaman): First of all, a cleric summon... Gotta have spiritual weapon like from dungeons and dragons! A giant holy hammer slamming on enemies or a holy spear at appears over their head and stab down onto them. Also another cool nod to DnD would be if you make the AoE heal/damage zone just like spiritual guardians, have a bunch of little fairies swarming around healing allies and damaging foes. I personally would also love to have a little flying summon that can shoot out small auto heals to whoever is lowest within my range, but some people might feel that's too easy mode haha maybe I'm just bad at healing and need some help lol

Cleric/Rogue (Shadow Disciple): Some cool ideas for this class would be if when the cleric throws down the AoE heal/damage circle it now has a poison effect and anyone who was in the AoE or enters the AoE will have a damage over time applied even if they leave the circle. Also maybe the whip can apply a small bleed effect. I was trying to think of ways maybe stealth could play a factor but I'm not sure which skills stealth could be applied to for the cleric lol.

Cleric/fighter (Templar): Honestly I cant think of many cool ways the fighter could add to the cleric. If you guys have some cool ideas let me know.

I think the cleric fighter should encourage a agresive playstile to His team,like giving lifesteal bonus,and maybe a Small percentage of His damage could heal His allies making like the most offensive clerical
All this ideas look great to me ,but maybe we áre dreaming too much Haha.

Dygz

Cleric is not all about healing, so it's not necessarily highest heal numbers that determines best Cleric.
It's the Active Skills that define the Primary Archetype role, so any of the 8 types of x/Cleric should be sufficient. Same for any of the 8 types of x/Tank.
It's mostly just a matter of personal style - especially with regard to how you synergize your augments with the other members of your group.

Cleric/Fighter would be adding some damage to the Cleric's heals - or adding Physical damage to Active Skills that deal Magical damage. In some ways, could be a very mobile "vampire" - dotting around the combat field draining the life from foes.

SirChancelot

I made a post a year ago or so about a summoner/tank
I think it would be super cool to see a ranged tank using their minions to control mob/boss positioning. Sounds like something that could have I high ceiling cap for the type of plays it could make.

I had a whole line up of how their abilities could flex for that style too.

CROW3

Pied piper as a tank. Rats.

fabula

Hectorelpelon wrote: »

I think the cleric fighter should encourage a agresive playstile to His team,like giving lifesteal bonus,and maybe a Small percentage of His damage could heal His allies making like the most offensive clerical
All this ideas look great to me ,but maybe we áre dreaming too much Haha.

Out of all the healers in all the mmos, the DoK from Warhammer has been my favorite. The melee version since that class could be a caster or melee healer. I wish to see more of this play-style where a healer is more like the tank/dps where your focus is on surviving and killing and less on babysitting.

My ideal playstyle would be like the Warhammer DoK dpsing and healing at the same time. You would have your close range AoE HoT heals, your large single target heals for emergencies and something like the ability to split a portion of your dmg to heals that can be applied on another player both single target and aoe form, this would make up the majority of your healing.

One thing I did like about Lost Ark was the mentality that comes when there is a limitation on when you can be healed. The healer is not responsible for keeping you alive, YOU are responsible for keeping yourself alive by evading attacks until the healer can heal you. Even if this is too much to ask at least you'll have more fun healing as one of these healers.

WhoaUrTilted

Lithion wrote: »

I'm just really hoping that tank and cleric have some really awesome classes that can compete with pure tank/tank and cleric/cleric in their role. I'm hoping the meta ISN'T just always tank/tank is the best tank or cleric/cleric always has the best healing numbers.

I'm probably going cleric so here's some cleric ideas I think would be cool:

Cleric/Bard (Scryer): This is a class I have high hopes for, if done right it could be more useful than pure cleric in raids I think. For this class I think it should give different buffs in addition to healing. It would be very useful if your AoE heal now to also boosts DPS and everyone would be trying to stand inside the AoE while burning down a raid boss. Also maybe on the cleric whip attack or spear throw it can also give the target a debuff like slowed slightly or 10% damage reduction. I'm just thinking of bards and all the buffs and debuffs they could apply that would be fun to mix with healing abilities.

Cleric/Tank (Apostle): Of course with the tank secondary I would hope for some damage mitigation abilities for yourself but not only that, I would love to see you be able to pop magic shields on people you heal, or give them extra defense/damage mitigation with some heals.

Cleric/Ranger (Protector): Would be awesome to shoot people with healing arrows. Also the AoE damage spell instead you could shoot one glowing golden arrow in the sky and it rains down arrows on that AoE zone. Also instead of throwing a light spear its just a big light arrow.

Cleric/Mage (Oracle): It would be cool if this class added in some splash damage and elemental effects like on the cleric whip if it was coated in lightning and when you strike someone lightning can arc off that person to anyone also within 5 feet or something. On the spear throw it could be a flame spear and on impact it explodes and does a small AoE fire damage and knockback. For the AoE heal and damage circle it could be a ball of ice you launch and splashes into a frozen zone of ice on the ground that does damage and heals that also slows any enemies that wander into it.

Cleric/Summoner (Shaman): First of all, a cleric summon... Gotta have spiritual weapon like from dungeons and dragons! A giant holy hammer slamming on enemies or a holy spear at appears over their head and stab down onto them. Also another cool nod to DnD would be if you make the AoE heal/damage zone just like spiritual guardians, have a bunch of little fairies swarming around healing allies and damaging foes. I personally would also love to have a little flying summon that can shoot out small auto heals to whoever is lowest within my range, but some people might feel that's too easy mode haha maybe I'm just bad at healing and need some help lol

Cleric/Rogue (Shadow Disciple): Some cool ideas for this class would be if when the cleric throws down the AoE heal/damage circle it now has a poison effect and anyone who was in the AoE or enters the AoE will have a damage over time applied even if they leave the circle. Also maybe the whip can apply a small bleed effect. I was trying to think of ways maybe stealth could play a factor but I'm not sure which skills stealth could be applied to for the cleric lol.

Cleric/fighter (Templar): Honestly I cant think of many cool ways the fighter could add to the cleric. If you guys have some cool ideas let me know.

I can see the Cleric/Fighter being sort of like a Holy Paladin in World of Warcraft. The main focus is on buffing and healing teammates but you do so mainly through your offensive abilities. Was always a blast for me!

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