The problem with peice by peice revealing of a HYBRID combat system.

Today we show off the base attack changes. And they look good, and the progress from alot of feed back in alpha 1 is apparent. Some of my base attack feed back from alpha 1 was addressed. Its nice to see.

But did we see everything we needed to see, of base attacks. In the hybrid system. Ashes is aiming for today? Id like to see more of the movement, and base attacking in tab targeting mode. I would like these peice by peice updates to cover how each peice fits into the whole of a hybrid system. The stream today looked great for an upcoming action combat mmo. I think in future updates, it should be important to show each aspect of what is being covered. Show it in action combat mode. And in tab target mode.

How am i supposed to make suggestions on how to make these base attacks more fitting in tab targeting, if that is my perfered way to play, if i dont even get to see it used that way.

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PenguinPaladin

Idk.

palabana wrote: »

You are assuming that the basic attacks will have tab target mode which I believe it won't have. Judging by what they have shown, I believe the basic attacks will only have one mode of targeting.

Im okay with this if that is how they are intending base attacks to function, however. If base attacks do not do any form of auto tracking, and having an enemy targeted through whatever the tab target system is, will base attacking just leave you in place attacking nothing, and does that translate to ranged base attacking? That would make all ranged base attacks a "skill shot" in a way.

palabana wrote: »

You need to keep in mind that the action/tab camera toggle in Alpha-1 is purely for testing purposes. They never planned to bring that toggle over to the final game.

There will be a toggle for having your mouse on screen. As to interact with the UI in general, i dont see any problems with this mouse on screen also functioning as a tab targeting mode in a hybrid system. The system isnt finalized, yes. But i expect there to still be 2 "modes" of use for that system. As playing action combat with mouse on screen takes away your ability to look around, and clicking something to tab target is extreamly common. I dont know how you would do both without 2 "modes" of control.

palabana wrote: »

Skills are either tab or action and not both. Therefore, it only makes sense if basic attacks are either tab or action and not both.

I somewhat agree with this. And it supports my main point. If the base attacks are "action only functionality" then the presentation should explain that if they are going to show us the base attacks....

Im not arguing action combat bad, tab target good. Im saying why show us a part of the system, if you dont EXPLAIN that part of the system to us. Oooo pretty animations, is not the monthly updates i want. I want some information on the state of development.

Dygz

Can’t please all of the people all of the time.
The info you want will probably appear once they are close to opening Alpha 2.

PenguinPaladin

Dygz wrote: »

Can’t please all of the people all of the time.
The info you want will probably appear once they are close to opening Alpha 2.

I know, thats why i left this as it was for a while. Said what i had to say

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