Intrepid - Clarification on Freehold Cosmetics - an answer is desperately needed

Hello all, I am hoping to work in getting Intrepid to try and expedite a reply with clarification on the paid-for Freehold cosmetics, how they will function in the game and any limitations that may exist as to how they can be used. I myself have not paid for anything, but a lot of people have and this is one of those grey areas that I think if Intrepid can just clear this up then it will serve as another move in Intrepid's favour of reassuring its audience/player base.

The freehold cosmetics have been on the monthly packs for years, and over a year ago the community was told that information would come out on this "soon". I think that this is different to asking for updates on a system in the game i.e. I want to see Naval updates - we will wait until it is ready for them to show. But this is a product being sold and right now the details of it are just not clear enough to justify it as a product.

I am very much behind the game and Steven/the team can put out so much information, so I am very surprised that this is something which is being kept so quiet on. I am unsure if there are genuine design issues that is preventing just an answer going out to the community, but I really think that it would be in their best interests to put out a comment explaining how these Freehold Skins exactly will function.

While I don't think this will generate an answer off the bat, I think that if collectively we can generate discussion, show interest/desire for this then with enough traction Intrepid may realise this is more important than they might give it some priority to divulge that information.

Please leave any thoughts and opinions that may help get this moving.

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Dygz

I would not expect a Temple to be used as a Tavern.
I would hope the skin includes objects that allow us to RP something similar to the description.
So, for this example, I would expect to see plenty of blood stains and torture racks and sacrificial altars.
I would not expect to see a kitchen and a bar and booths for eating.

In a practical sense -regardless of the specific Temple skin- I would think a Temple Freehold might be used to help with Religious Org related stuff the same way a Tavern can help with parlour games, ordering food and quests from the task board.
"If a player chooses to construct a tavern or a business on their Freehold, they can offer food through that tavern and players who are visiting the area doing hunting quests can visit the tavern, eat food if it's available, and they will receive a buff that is proximity based essentially if they hunt around that person's business... Additionally that business can be upgraded through the access of additional blueprints as well as resources that need to be then poured into the building; and if they do so that proximity radius expands."
---Steven

I would not be expecting to walk into a Freehold with a Graycage skin and RP that it's a Tavern.

Enigmatic Sage

@Dygz that's very interesting! So based on that, it sounds like things are going to be exclusive to purpose. Sill curious to how they imply constructing a business on the freehold. I wonder what the full spectrum of that implies for current and future goals and freehold expansion options via node progression directly vs indirectly.

CROW3

Dygz wrote: »

So, for this example, I would expect to see plenty of blood stains and torture racks and sacrificial altars. I would not expect to see a kitchen and a bar and booths for eating.

Well, there may be some taverns in Eastern Europe that could expand your perspective… 🤪

Dygz

I don't know that they are exclusive, but...
I purchase Freehold skins expecting to RP them to be kind of similar to their descriptions, so...
It seems odd to me that someone would purchase what's described as a Temple and be upset that they can't use it on a Tavern Freehold.

daveywavey

Dygz wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

When I saw the Greycage, it was just the look I wanted for my Freehold Tavern, so seeing that it was a Freehold Building Cosmetic Skin, I bought it, because I wanted to use the cosmetic skin on my freehold building. If it turns out that it's only for use on a different type of building and that I can't use it on my freehold tavern building, then that's not what was specified at the time of purchase.

Graycage:
Deep in the bowels of the twisted woods lies this formidable temple of the dark arts. Various sacrificial rites take place within the damned bastion, and not even the cries of the misfortuned escape its walls. It is here that the most vile of shamans lead their people, and it is only a matter of time until they decide to take a bolder approach with their schemes.

If that only works on "Temples" and not "Taverns"...
I think that's not a dev problem.

So, if I came across a ruined temple that I wanted to call home, cleared it out and wanted to turn it into a tavern, I wouldn't be able to, cos it used to be a temple?

Dygz

You might not be able to. And you should probably assume you won't be successful at it.
I dunno why you would buy a Temple and then be upset that you can't use the Temple as a Tavern.

Shoelid

Even a vague statement of design direction would be nice. Maybe they don't want to say specifics for each freehold skin, but a statement like "You may not be able to use your freehold skin if you don't have one of the requisite buildings on your property" would be a big help.

But instead we're all here just making guesses.

Liniker

I support your post. I would love to start buying freehold skins again.

Glir

Steven showed cosmetic shop mounts on stream many times, but he never showed freeholds from cosmetic shop. So hope we gonna see it.

AidanKD

We are seeing that there is direct financial incentive for intrepid here. People would be willing to pay if they knew!

Combined with cosmetics being inaccessible after the month they are on sale, forever, if knowing the ins and outs might make you reconsider buying an old cosmetic, unfortunately you have lost your chance.

And some people will flat out buy packs if they knew. I consider that the least important reason but no doubt it would be valuable to them.

daveywavey

Bored Bump, cos it's been asked sooooo many times......

daveywavey

Liniker wrote: »

I support your post. I would love to start buying freehold skins again.

AidanKD

I did bring it up for the Q&A but yes I still think that for all skins that this applies to, Intrepid just need to pull their finger out and just nip this in the bud. I really don't believe they couldn't just at least say yes, the skins are restricted to specific freehold buildings types and you will/will not be able to have all types present on your freehold at any one time.

Dygz

Caww wrote: »

It is possible that many people will own a freehold cosmetic but will not be able to use it given how difficult it will be to attain the freehold itself and only one per account so only one skin at a time. Myself I'm a little intimidated by Stevens statement on the wiki and don't buy the freehold skins at all.

"If a player wants to achieve a freehold they can achieve the freehold, however the amount of effort resources and time that's required in order to achieve that freehold is a large amount. It is something that is a monumental achievement for you to to get that freehold; and the reason why is because freeholds tie in very heavily to the processing artisanship aspect. Some processing can be done in nodes, but the best processing is done on freeholds; and we want to make sure that there's a little bit of a throttle or gate on the amount of effort that's necessary to achieve that influence over the processing market.[14] – Steven Sharif"

Hmmmn. It's not one at a time.
I'll post the relevant vid below, but...
Freehold refers to a plot of land.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Freeholds
Freeholds are sizable player housing plots that can be situated within the Zone of influence (ZOI) of a Village (stage 3) or higher.

You can place several buildings on a Freehold.
And there are different building types to choose from.
So, you can have several types of buildings on one Freehold. Which means you could have several cosmetic skins on one Freehold.
While you might not be able to place two taverns on one Freehold, you should be able to place a temple and a tavern on the same Freehold. Probably cannot place a temple skin on a tavern building.

https://youtu.be/cqDjAzZ2gAQ?t=8067

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