What kind of Augment schools you want to see from secondary class choice?

What we know is mage as secondary will probably provide fire/ice/wind/teleportation augment schools, cleric will provide death/?/?/life augment schools. What other class augment schools you want to see or predict seing and how they might improve primary class skills?

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Gates2Valhalla

Vaknar wrote: »

I would love to provide you all with more details and information. However, these things are not finalized so anything I could say to you would be subject to change.

With that said, we hope to have updates for you on classes and augments very soon. It's something our teams are working diligently on ^_^

Like OP suggested, I would love to see you all come up with additional ideas for augments for secondary classes! What can you imagine, I wonder? 🤔💭

Fighter as school could have "chase" which would make primary class movement skills into 2-3 charges with sperate cooldowns instead of 1 charge with a cooldown, giving that stick to your face feel. Another cool idea would be some kind of "charges" school where abilities could stack in effect if used against same target (lets say if your ability gives enemy 2s stun, next time its used on same target it would make it 3 seconds) which would give that advantage in long fights 1v1 and probably would make you want to chase/fight same target.
Ranger as school could have "traps" that augments abilities to drop some kind of bear traps at character location when skill was used.
Rogue should have "stealth" so every class that picks rogue as secondary could enter into temporary/permanent stealth
Mage i think will be easyest for you guys to figure out (there is a reason why it was used as example)
Bard "buff" and "debuff" schools that after using augmented ability it will shake all negative effects or gives specific buff for short period of time (buffs could be even stacking for some cool low cooldown ability builds)
Tank - simple schools based on tank types: "evasion/cc/reduction" you have in plans
Summoner schools choice should make abilities allowed that pet do different things, lets say if warrior charge skill is augmented with summoners "guardian (defensive summon inspired school)" school at the end it would give defensive stats, if augmented with "destroyer" school after charge your small summoned friend should attack nearest/targeted target.
Cleric - besides "life/death" schools hard to come up with ideas.

PenguinPaladin

Azherae wrote: »

Elder wrote: »

It's a bit confusing as to if the mages elemental augments will come from one school of augmentation or multiple separate schools. The wiki says this:

Each secondary archetype offers four different schools of augmentation.

For example: A Mage offers Teleportation and elemental schools of augments.

The Mage archetype offers four elemental schools as augments to a character's primary skills.

If we were to assume each elemental school was its own school of augmentation, we'd have a total of 5 schools of augmentation, including teleportation. One more than we should.

For this reason, it's my understanding that all the elemental schools of augments will come from one school of augmentation, and we have two schools of augmentation that are yet to be confirmed.

Teleportation/Elemental/***/***

If anyone has any other information on this, I would appreciate if they would share it.

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Augments
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Elements

All I can say is that if the Mage augments are all:

"Different Elemental Option Augment"

Then I have no hope for this game in the end, and I too, would appreciate clarification since @Vaknar actually gave this as an answer for a Q&A recently and quoted the same thing from the wiki.

I'm certainly not here to campaign that Intrepid change something from their vision to what I'd like better, but I would definitely like to know if to stop caring.

I wouldnt go so far to say "different elemental option augments" is a let down... depending on how they effect the skills ot could still be a very high variety of changes. Especially knowing there are like 10-20 augments available outside of your secondary class. But clearification, and at the very least more and better examples would be nice.

PenguinPaladin

I think a summoner augment school could just be like "one for all" and "all for one"

So a fighter could take the summoner secondary and have augments that both

All for one- summon additional sources for their attacks, like floating blades.

And one for all- summon "traits of their minions" like phantasmic horns or additional arms, showing they are buffed by a summoned aspect

CROW3

From a ranger / rogue perspective, I'd want to see the standard bleeding, poison, fire augments. Maybe some blended magical augments that include psionics, energies, & illusion.

PenguinPaladin

Its interesting because rouge is who i perceive being sneaky, and ranger is who i see catching them.

Azherae

PenguinPaladin wrote: »

Azherae wrote: »

Elder wrote: »

It's a bit confusing as to if the mages elemental augments will come from one school of augmentation or multiple separate schools. The wiki says this:

Each secondary archetype offers four different schools of augmentation.

For example: A Mage offers Teleportation and elemental schools of augments.

The Mage archetype offers four elemental schools as augments to a character's primary skills.

If we were to assume each elemental school was its own school of augmentation, we'd have a total of 5 schools of augmentation, including teleportation. One more than we should.

For this reason, it's my understanding that all the elemental schools of augments will come from one school of augmentation, and we have two schools of augmentation that are yet to be confirmed.

Teleportation/Elemental/***/***

If anyone has any other information on this, I would appreciate if they would share it.

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Augments
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Elements

All I can say is that if the Mage augments are all:

"Different Elemental Option Augment"

Then I have no hope for this game in the end, and I too, would appreciate clarification since @Vaknar actually gave this as an answer for a Q&A recently and quoted the same thing from the wiki.

I'm certainly not here to campaign that Intrepid change something from their vision to what I'd like better, but I would definitely like to know if to stop caring.

I wouldnt go so far to say "different elemental option augments" is a let down... depending on how they effect the skills ot could still be a very high variety of changes. Especially knowing there are like 10-20 augments available outside of your secondary class. But clearification, and at the very least more and better examples would be nice.

To each their own.

To me, it'd be a letdown compared to what I expect and experience in games, but it'd definitely be more than enough for some others, and I would hope for it to be done in whatever way those people would most prefer.

Dygz

Vaknar wrote: »

We hope to have updates for you on classes and augments very soon, right after Nodes 3. ^_^

There. I fixed it for you.

Dygz

CROW3 wrote: »

From a ranger / rogue perspective, I'd want to see the standard bleeding, poison, fire augments. Maybe some blended magical augments that include psionics, energies, & illusion.

Typically both Rangers and Rogues have Stealth. Rangers should excel at Stealth in the wild, while Rogues should excel at Stealth in urban settings.
RPGs rarely make that distinction, though.

I'm expecting Ranger to have a Nature augment School (with Nature being a damage type). Could be that Stealth falls under there. I would also expect to see Snare augments in one of the Ranger Schools.

I'm also expecting to see Rogues have a Shadow augment School (with Shadow being a damage type). Could be that Stealth falls under there. Trap augments should be in one of the Rogue Schools (I'm kinda hoping for one to be in the Shadow School).
Bleeds and Poisons are likely Rogue augment Schools. I think (Smoke) Bombs instead of Fire?

I'm thinking Bards will have Illusions - which allows us to have Charlatan and Trickster, but... could be Rogue, as well.

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