[WWYD] Ganking a Player...

Vaknar

😈 What a glorious day for ganking!

👀 You are on the prowl, and notice an unsuspecting player chopping trees. #WWYD?

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mcstackerson

George_Black wrote: »

Bad marketing is bad marketing. Perhaps you get a kick out of a tiny bit of interaction mcstackerson and you felt attacked just now. But this tiny bit of interaction that got you all excited will be the next wave of people posting in eveey forum "why the corruption system wont work" and from that wave a bunch of ppl will say "Ill give this game a pass".

So if you want to sit here and have "something to do" do that, dont try to clarify for me how I should respond to this.
Have fun now

It's bad marketing because people might come on the forums and make a thread against pvp? I get where you are coming from but those threads will always exist. I think it's better to be transparent about this side of the game than act like it's not there in some weird attempt to sneak it in.

Mag7spy

Regardless how much this happens in the game or such it still is a valid question that can give information on interest and thoughts. Ganking is still apart of the game and even if it isn't a gank fest so input is valuable.

ThatGuyPowers

I'm only gonna gank players and guilds that have an interest in attacking the node I live in no one else

Underdelve

Announce myself as a "Gathering Auditor." Inquire as to whether or not the Gatherer has a valid gathering permit. If the Gatherer's response is "yes," explain to the Gatherer that the permit they have is no longer valid and that they will need to purchase a new gathering permit. If the Gatherer's response is "no," explain that the Gatherer needs a permit in order to gather in this area.

In any case, inform the gatherer that I, as a *cough* "Gathering Auditor" just so happen to have a valid gathering permit available for sale...for a reasonable price.

If the Gatherer refuses to purchase a valid gathering permit, threaten violence to induce purchase of a gathering permit. If the Gatherer shows resistance, wish the Gather the best of luck and immediately leave the area in search of another Gatherer to swindle.

Okeydoke

Good god, you'd think the question was asking, "you catch an unsuspecting woman in a skirt bent over, what do you do, based on some of these responses. holy shit.

I'd check the horizon in all directions for other players, and if clear, I'd move up behind as quickly and quietly as I can and go for the kill.

On the player in a video game with pvp. Not the woman. Good lord people.

akabear

Simply, if the player was chopping wood and wood was a low-value commodity, I would probably do nothing.

Dolyem

If people get upset over the aspect of ganking in a promotion for a PvX game, then they are probably in denial of the fact that PvP is just as much of a part of this game as PvE.

Azherae

Dolyem wrote: »

If people get upset over the aspect of ganking in a promotion for a PvX game, then they are probably in denial of the fact that PvP ganking is just as much of a part of this game as PvE.

Deniers amirite?

Dolyem

Azherae wrote: »

Dolyem wrote: »

If people get upset over the aspect of ganking in a promotion for a PvX game, then they are probably in denial of the fact that PvP ganking is just as much of a part of this game as PvE.

Deniers amirite?

Bunch of silly gooses

Nosreme

I hope the game doesnt have open world free ganking. The vast majority of players dont want this. If the game launches with open world pvp, a lot of people inc myself will pass.

Dolyem

Nosreme wrote: »

I hope the game doesnt have open world free ganking. The vast majority of players dont want this. If the game launches with open world pvp, a lot of people inc myself will pass.

It does have open world pvp. But griefing is limited by the corruption system.

Nosreme

Dolyem wrote: »

If people get upset over the aspect of ganking in a promotion for a PvX game, then they are probably in denial of the fact that PvP is just as much of a part of this game as PvE.

Its not, actually. And structured pvp is one thing. Open world griefers ganking ppl for pleasure is entirely different.

Azherae

Nosreme wrote: »

Dolyem wrote: »

If people get upset over the aspect of ganking in a promotion for a PvX game, then they are probably in denial of the fact that PvP is just as much of a part of this game as PvE.

Its not, actually. And structured pvp is one thing. Open world griefers ganking ppl for pleasure is entirely different.

Which, I suppose, is why they're making it so clear now. When they use the word 'ganking' outright, in a way that it will be at the top of the discussion forum, it's almost explicitly meant to open a dialogue with you and players of the same perspective, even if indirectly.

Why would you pass on it? Is there any level of discouragement/punishment for the ganker (let's say me and one partner, in this case) that would make you willing to play anyway?

Nosreme

Azherae wrote: »

Nosreme wrote: »

Dolyem wrote: »

If people get upset over the aspect of ganking in a promotion for a PvX game, then they are probably in denial of the fact that PvP is just as much of a part of this game as PvE.

Its not, actually. And structured pvp is one thing. Open world griefers ganking ppl for pleasure is entirely different.

Which, I suppose, is why they're making it so clear now. When they use the word 'ganking' outright, in a way that it will be at the top of the discussion forum, it's almost explicitly meant to open a dialogue with you and players of the same perspective, even if indirectly.

Why would you pass on it? Is there any level of discouragement/punishment for the ganker (let's say me and one partner, in this case) that would make you willing to play anyway?

Because I've been there, done that, and when you open that door, you open a pandoras box of griefing thats generally unfun. I'll wait to see how corruption works, but I doubt it'll be a deterant for anyone. Steven has stated publicly that this game will not contain pvping griefing but we'll see when the game launches. There's a reason 90% of wow players are not on pvp servers.

Also, are they making it clear? It seems more uncertain than ever.

Dolyem

Nosreme wrote: »

Dolyem wrote: »

If people get upset over the aspect of ganking in a promotion for a PvX game, then they are probably in denial of the fact that PvP is just as much of a part of this game as PvE.

Its not, actually. And structured pvp is one thing. Open world griefers ganking ppl for pleasure is entirely different.

Because players are motivated by different things, because they want something from the game that other players don't want, that's going to cause people to butt heads. Different players are going to want different experiences and the conflict between the two of them will create a bigger and better thing. Out of strife comes rebirth and that's a core symbol, it's a core theme that occurs throughout the game.[6] – Jeffrey Bard
There are many reasons to engage in open world PvP in Ashes of Creation.[7]

Scarce resources.[7] open world pvp
Hunting grounds.[7] open world pvp
Caravans.[7]
Sieges.[7]
Guild wars.[7]
Just because our flagging system gives corruption to pkers, doesn't mean PvP won't happen. There is plenty of reason for PvP to occur open-world. Scarce resources, open world hunting grounds, caravans, sieges, guild wars etc.[7] – Steven Sharif

Those bold ones are specifically built around ganking in open world involving farming/gathering.

Nosreme

Dolyem wrote: »

Nosreme wrote: »

Dolyem wrote: »

If people get upset over the aspect of ganking in a promotion for a PvX game, then they are probably in denial of the fact that PvP is just as much of a part of this game as PvE.

Its not, actually. And structured pvp is one thing. Open world griefers ganking ppl for pleasure is entirely different.

Because players are motivated by different things, because they want something from the game that other players don't want, that's going to cause people to butt heads. Different players are going to want different experiences and the conflict between the two of them will create a bigger and better thing. Out of strife comes rebirth and that's a core symbol, it's a core theme that occurs throughout the game.[6] – Jeffrey Bard
There are many reasons to engage in open world PvP in Ashes of Creation.[7]

Scarce resources.[7] open world pvp
Hunting grounds.[7] open world pvp
Caravans.[7]
Sieges.[7]
Guild wars.[7]
Just because our flagging system gives corruption to pkers, doesn't mean PvP won't happen. There is plenty of reason for PvP to occur open-world. Scarce resources, open world hunting grounds, caravans, sieges, guild wars etc.[7] – Steven Sharif

Those bold ones are specifically built around ganking in open world involving farming/gathering.

Well, we shall see, won't we? But if this is the case, then I'll happily spend my money elsewhere. And so will a lot of other people.

Dolyem

Nosreme wrote: »

Dolyem wrote: »

Nosreme wrote: »

Dolyem wrote: »

If people get upset over the aspect of ganking in a promotion for a PvX game, then they are probably in denial of the fact that PvP is just as much of a part of this game as PvE.

Its not, actually. And structured pvp is one thing. Open world griefers ganking ppl for pleasure is entirely different.

Because players are motivated by different things, because they want something from the game that other players don't want, that's going to cause people to butt heads. Different players are going to want different experiences and the conflict between the two of them will create a bigger and better thing. Out of strife comes rebirth and that's a core symbol, it's a core theme that occurs throughout the game.[6] – Jeffrey Bard
There are many reasons to engage in open world PvP in Ashes of Creation.[7]

Scarce resources.[7] open world pvp
Hunting grounds.[7] open world pvp
Caravans.[7]
Sieges.[7]
Guild wars.[7]
Just because our flagging system gives corruption to pkers, doesn't mean PvP won't happen. There is plenty of reason for PvP to occur open-world. Scarce resources, open world hunting grounds, caravans, sieges, guild wars etc.[7] – Steven Sharif

Those bold ones are specifically built around ganking in open world involving farming/gathering.

Well, we shall see, won't we? But if this is the case, then I'll happily spend my money elsewhere. And so will a lot of other people.

Well that's fine. Nobody will force you to play a game that you don't enjoy. However there will be plenty of people who do enjoy it.

Nosreme

Well that's fine. Nobody will force you to play a game that you don't enjoy. However there will be plenty of people who do enjoy it.

I'm guessing "plenty" won't nearly be enough, but that's just my assessment.

Dolyem

Nosreme wrote: »

Well that's fine. Nobody will force you to play a game that you don't enjoy. However there will be plenty of people who do enjoy it.

I'm guessing "plenty" won't nearly be enough, but that's just my assessment.

More of an opinion

JamesSunderland

I might just have to "cut down" this lumberjack's business short.

But please, lets not be unreasonable enough to take a lacking in context WWYD and over analyze or even give it more value/credit than it can have....

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