Ranger stealth

Rather than just going invisible, I think it would be a more interesting mechanic if a ranger had an ability to change either their cloak/cape/clothes camo to better suit the terrain they are in.

For example - you are about to start a fight in a forested area, you spot who you are going to fight a ways off and hit your camo ability. your cloak takes on the color of the trees and bark around you and it turns off your name above your head until you fire your first shot.

The fight starts not going your way so you retreat to more mountainous terrain and break line of sight and camo again to better hide from the people chasing you.

I think this could be a more interesting mechanic and might be possible with how they have done seasons in the game and changing how things look.

id love to hear others thoughts on this. thanks.

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Warth

Hard to do.
Even harder to do well.

Lots of unnecessary development time for close to no benefit compared to simply yanking up transparancy to 9X%

daveywavey

Maybe you could have a Ranger Stealth Pack in your "Cloak" slot, that determines what you look like. A Boulder Stealth Pack makes you look like a boulder, a Bush Stealth Pack makes you look like a bush, etc?

So, if you really wanted to go into it in depth, you could have a different one for each biome you frequent.

Warth

@daveywavey never saw a single game where transformatives like these worked well at all. You were always spotted easily.

I just think it wouldn't be any different here and prefer Rangers not lose an important part of their kit just because we fought it smart to give them some gimmicky garbage rather than a valid tool

Dizz1

Why ranger should able to be stealth? I thought that is rogue thing.

If you are talking about ranger+rogue, ok, I think that the form of stealth is easy to do hots already had that, but I don’t think it’s necessary.

Plus I don’t like the idea of ranger+rogue will be able to just go into stealth, it should be rogue’s identity. If you mean shoot one arrow than able to be stealth for a while then I will agree with you.

Songcaller

Rogues and Rangers can or have both had stealth in the past. Both in DnD and in other MMOs. Its not unheard of for Rangers to have stealth especially when there are rangers in a game but no rogues.

daveywavey

The Gondor Rangers had stealth in LOTR.

bloodprophet

This isn't D&D or LOTR.

Seems like it was mentioned early on it was a rouge primary archetype skill.

Dygz

Ashes is Pathfinder.

We don't have enough details about Ranger/x to know whether the devs plan to give them Stealth.
Seems likely.
We might get a dev quote if someone asks the devs that specific question.

Morg7x7

Dygz

Oh! That quote's from 5 days ago...while I was at family reunion.
Nice!
Camouflage is what I would expect from a Ranger. We'll have to see how well that works in the game.

Dizz1

Morg7x7 wrote: »

Quite well thought to me if the camouflage can be replace by a carton will be better.

https://youtu.be/MS8OawQegYE

Smol

Warth wrote: »

Hard to do.
Even harder to do well.

Lots of unnecessary development time for close to no benefit compared to simply yanking up transparancy to 9X%

Well, not hard to do. One of the issues in BDO was a skin that was essentially a sniper's camo, leafs and branches. The big issue with this skin in PvP is they were hard to notice. They were not invisible, but they blended with the plants and trees very well, and it was just a simple cosmetic. They could probably make some clothes that could blend with the environment as a skill.

Songcaller

The Ghillie suit in BDO also got rid of the player name plates and health etc. Hence why they were so effective. It wasn't a standard cosmetic.

Mag7spy

Ghillie was one of the most disgusting p2w and gameplay experience in that game people had to deal with for years, was completely disgusting (needed to say that again). They removed that effect from gameplay last year or this year made things not fun since it made it extremely hard to track some classes.

Kenjatime

all very good points, my main question was if it could be done some kinda way with how they change seasons just have a smaller version for a skill.
I am not a game developer or am very in the know on how these things get done, i thought it would be kinda cool to have something like this, thank you all for your feedback i appreciate you taking the time to have a think about this.

Dolyem

Honestly for rangers and rogues alike, give them the ability to hide their nameplate unless directly targeted.

Anonymous332

stealth should be rogue exclusive, stealth for other classes sounds lame and bad design

Dolyem

Izil wrote: »

stealth should be rogue exclusive, stealth for other classes sounds lame and bad design

I mean, it could definitely be a rogue secondary ability for ranger primary. A sort of stationary stealth at a distance.

Warth

Izil wrote: »

stealth should be rogue exclusive, stealth for other classes sounds lame and bad design

Steath has been a staple for ranger-like classes in a multitude of games. So i do not see your point at all. Can you elaborate on your "bad design" rather than making a non-argument?

Dygz

Camouflage is an expected form of Stealth for Rangers. Nothing lame about that.

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