Backpacks not Inventories.

Literal backpacks. Get people to carry your stuff for you. Be hindered in combat if you don't take it off.
Catch people trying to steal your stuff. Hide your gold somewhere in a hole. Stronger people can carry more. Carry stuff in a cart from one place to another. Build minetracks from the quarry/mine to the processing area or animal harnessed cart.

Most characters are stronger than your average person so it's not a big deal for the Tank to be using a backpack larger than himself; so what's the issue?
Designing a game around stacks of 1000 wood or whatever isn't respecting your time it's making the whole game solo-able lol; no point to it. Most people are useless to others in an MMO; why wouldn't you make it a cooperative game by having constraints.

Everyone complains about lack of meaningful socialization but this is the solution they're anxious about promoting.

And if backpacks are a thing, so should pockets. Keep keys and whatever in pockets. On your belt. Whatever. Small items should get their own space for better organization and no competition with "Inventory" where you have to pick out which item is the key or small note amongst 50 other items.

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Hinotori

Do people even research the game?

It's going to have backpack space and mules that die and caravans to contest transportation of goods.

I do have to agree with tautau though, you're asking for levels of detail that make the game more of a chore and less fun value.

Sapiverenus

@Natasha
Stalking backpackers and rummaging through their shit then escaping while they fight something sounds great what are you talking about lol

Mag7spy

Sapiverenus

lol

Hinotori

Sapiverenus wrote: »

@Natasha
Stalking backpackers and rummaging through their shit then escaping while they fight something sounds great what are you talking about lol

The more you respond the more convinced I am that you want a fully reactionary open loot pvp survival game.

Something where players can fully alter the world but have to be fully prepared for every possible eventuality whether thats distance, weather, other players, pocket size, your character resilience and so on and have to plan every step extremely thoroughly.

Also where you can cause as much chaos as you want but you have to live with the consequence.

Not saying that's bad, but I don't think ashes will become that game.

Sapiverenus

Well Nodes are civilization. Defense. Safety. NPC guards. Also sieges that might just wipe the node. Refugees. Being chased down and killed when running to another node because you're Tank. Sacrificing your Summon to buy time while you escape.

The rest of the world is Law of the Jungle; or Law of Corruption I guess. Horror game themes. Nature fantasy zones that are deadly and hate you tree cutters. Mineral resources with Mineral enemies that WWE smackdown your raid. Mental attacks because it's Corruption. Ambushes. Poison. Plants that kill you when eaten. Players probably too busy to rob you because they need your help to survive. Fields of farming that must be defended if you hope to survive. . . enemy NPC civs that literally seek people and nodes out to destroy.

Asraiel

Sapiverenus wrote: »

The class identity is lacking based on alpha 1 footage. Tank had an instant throwing weapon that bounced around and then did AoE damage for instance. The class identity is at the very least not elaborated upon and given depth and character. It's the most basic idea of "class identity" one can come up with.
There is no complex design in Ashes of Creation classes and the complex design of other MMOs is mostly superficial or in fact simple.

You may have not noiticed Alpha 1 had placeholder systems. it had 3 classes with a few skills for testing purposes only. Dont take what you see and what will be on release. Also dont tke a Tecnical test such as alpha 1, and badtalk it because you thinkt that this is how the game is released.

it has content so we as players could play and generate data for the testings. otherwise alpha 1 tester would have been more knowledged about testing professionaly. the way Alpha 1 was was on purpose so that it was easy to play and to be able to test certain thing even skills that aint for the class that had them because it was tested how it does in the tecnical (to playe not visible) part of the game and game performance.

Sapiverenus

a bit sketch, as the hip do say

Asraiel

well you opend up several topics in a shot time may i refer to you that thers a SEARCH function cause some of your Topics allredy have discussions running

here a Topic of mine that is a bit older than yours
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/53636/backpack-belt-and-pouches

Sapiverenus

ok i have begun the raid

pulling agro

hleV

Liniker wrote: »

tautau wrote: »

A bit off topic here...

But @Sapiverenus may have the record for the lowest ratio of likes to posts on the boards. His ratio is .022 (two percent as many likes as posts).
We can compare this to @SongRune at 93.2 (almost every single post has received at least one like) and @George_Black at 1.0 (rounded, with 2.5k posts and likes), which show that Song and George make posts which are respected and liked by the board population.

Gratz Sap, you stand out!

You deserve 100 likes for this comment LMAO

While I do think OP is trolling or just really out there, you shouldn't encourage such posts.
(OP could probably post a popular PvE-based opinion somewhere to get back into the "likes" game.)

WHIT3ROS3

Sapiverenus wrote: »

The dev time is taking forever and yall act like everything is fine.

It's not taking forever. It's only been just over 5 years since the Kickstarter launched. You would struggle to complete a Masters Degree in that time. I personally think that if it takes a person around 9 years from start to becoming a qualified Architect, for example. Then I'd expect the creation of a huge MMORPG to take at least as long.

CptBrownBeard

Forget likes, we need the "lol" button back. Sap would be rolling in them.

Scarbeus

It's interesting how some people will have developed a reputation for themselves before even Alpha 2 is out

tautau

Quite right, Scar, some can do it in only a few days!

daveywavey

tautau wrote: »

A bit off topic here...

But @Sapiverenus may have the record for the lowest ratio of likes to posts on the boards. His ratio is .022 (two percent as many likes as posts).
We can compare this to @SongRune at 93.2 (almost every single post has received at least one like) and @George_Black at 1.0 (rounded, with 2.5k posts and likes), which show that Song and George make posts which are respected and liked by the board population.

Gratz Sap, you stand out!

Hinotori

@daveywavey 4K LIKES!?!?!?!?

this is a certified froot pog moment!

Ludullu

Noaani at over 5k

Sapiverenus

WHIT3ROS3 wrote: »

Sapiverenus wrote: »

The dev time is taking forever and yall act like everything is fine.

It's not taking forever. It's only been just over 5 years since the Kickstarter launched. You would struggle to complete a Masters Degree in that time. I personally think that if it takes a person around 9 years from start to becoming a qualified Architect, for example. Then I'd expect the creation of a huge MMORPG to take at least as long.

That's 1 person lol. Without skill. What is this comparison.

Most tools are already provided by Unreal. Animation & Modelling tools are often very streamlined and people that aren't green tend to produce high quality animations/ models relatively quickly.
Given that there were 17 employees 5 or so years ago and it's only been growing (according to Sharif) it is suspicious. There are even tools in Unreal to get an MMO running day 1; this can't be used on launch but is fine for getting playtesting going.
You don't need more than 1 netcode guy unless you're constantly fiddling with stuff and creating unique mechanics near launch. Or you hired the wrong person lol. Maybe they need an assistant; not sure; but that's 1 netcode guy that's great at what he does and 1 intern/assistant college student that will learn a hell of a lot and work for "free" [knowledge/training].

Everything suggests inexperience from this company so I guess you're right about the college parallel lol. You are right that Sharif was completely unprepared and who knows who he is hiring or why.

Copying over some backpack stuff I posted in relation to Hotkeys:

As for Inventory: Open Backpack.

Take off physical backpack or open Easy Access menu.
How?
Tap F -> easy access container menu opens with locations on the screen different based on what container it is; belt type stuff is at the bottom, side bags are at the side.
Hold F -> cursor appears and you can click on something.

Hold Shift + Tap F ->Takes the main bag off and puts it in your hand or in front of you; this can take variable time to take off based on relative backpack weight/size ->
Large and heavy is 2 seconds to take off, 1.5 seconds for medium, .75 second for light. When in combat this decreases by .25 seconds for each.

If you're holding a light or medium pack and have an open hand, you hold the bag in your hand and can hold left/right click to open and hold left/right click then press E to drop or Hold E to throw.

Tap E interacts. Hold E to steal or Hold Left/Right Click [left/right hand] then Tap E to drop or Hold E to throw.

Dolyem

tautau wrote: »

A bit off topic here...

But @Sapiverenus may have the record for the lowest ratio of likes to posts on the boards. His ratio is .022 (two percent as many likes as posts).
We can compare this to @SongRune at 93.2 (almost every single post has received at least one like) and @George_Black at 1.0 (rounded, with 2.5k posts and likes), which show that Song and George make posts which are respected and liked by the board population.

Gratz Sap, you stand out!

Now on topic. Alpha 1 was not intended to be a completed game, it was not intended to be 'fun' and it was not intended to be an example of what AoC will be like when it was released. They made that very clear to those of us who volunteered for the test. I think you misunderstood the purpose of Alpha 1, Sap.

The Wiki (found at https://ashesofcreation.wiki/) will give you far better information about the game's "deep design."

Do me next!

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