Melee combat pvp gonna suck

The mage and now ranger have too many advantages where if you’re a melee you’ll get Rekt easily.

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Asgerr wrote: »

Meurum24 wrote: »

szelesbt wrote: »

And how do we know that? What if the rouge comes out with a bunch of gapclosers and cc, while having burst dmg and stealth. Then the ranged classes will cry. My point is we have to see more from the classes before we discuss balance.

I’m a warrior player so I won’t be stealthy rogue. And there’s no gap closers on the warriors and the mage and ranger have abilities to escape

Blatantly wrong (see video below), but keep telling us how you've already figured out the entirety of all combat interaction between all classes.

Fighter/Fighter gameplay:
https://youtu.be/t3LydR8VssY?t=829s

Also
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Javelin

Dummo

Just pray they'll balance it well.

LordPax

Meurum24 wrote: »

The mage and now ranger have too many advantages where if you’re a melee you’ll get Rekt easily.

While I appreciate a good ' bait thread', this is just boring. We saw a pre-alpha video that was prefaced by stating "EVERYTHING is subject to change, and this is not balanced, requires feedback, and is just a show of what the *direction* we want to go is"

WHIT3ROS3

Where do these trolls get the confidence to make such sweeping, ill-informed statements? There are dozens of ways in which Ranged DPS classes can be countered by Melee class types. Even basic reflect abilities can completely nullify ranged DPS. Good gap closers, CC effects, reflect, deflect and enrage mechanics can all be utilized.

akabear

NiKr wrote: »

Meurum24 wrote: »

Balanced around 8v8? Lmao most of the time you’ll be in a 1v1 in this game and like wow they’ll have arenas most likely.

One of the main inspirations for the game is Lineage 2. And there you HAD to be in a group to be able to do any meaningful pvp. Solo pvp was utter trash. So if anything, I'd say that it's way more likely that we'll mainly see party vs party pvp rather than solo one.

And arenas will just have RPS balancing, just as Solmyr said.

Quite true - in L2 there were cries of not being good at pve, pvp by some classes, but thing was when as a group players shone as everyone had a role:

ranged archer classes shone in outdoor pvp, and did poorly indoors
mage types seemed to do ok in both
tanks types could pull aggro in pvp, which made it harder for a ranger to aim on soft targets
fighter types were awesome in close combat indoor fights
support types were highly sought after for pvx, but fodder in all fights

I think that is the direction AoC is going. There is not and will not be alot of balance likely between individual classes. So, yes in smaller pvp skirmishes some classes will be better suited. But same will be for parties, some classes will be more selectively valued and invited based on situation. The real balance comes through group play, not individual.

Deadfool

WHIT3ROS3 wrote: »

Where do these trolls get the confidence to make such sweeping, ill-informed statements? There are dozens of ways in which Ranged DPS classes can be countered by Melee class types. Even basic reflect abilities can completely nullify ranged DPS. Good gap closers, CC effects, reflect, deflect and enrage mechanics can all be utilized.

Some people just suck at MMORPG and they blame it on a developer

Hinotori

Deadfool wrote: »

It's so sad to see that some people are really not ready to give "something different" a chance.
I blame them for me still being single! (joke)

Damn this gave me a good chuckle.

FuryBladeborne

@Meurum24
What we want the Fighter warrior to do is to be able to cut through enemy lines, get to the support area of a raid perhaps and take out healers with some quick DPS burst damage... – Steven Sharif

Stevens goal is the exact opposite of what you assume.

Rush: Rush toward a target; and upon reaching the target, deal an amount damage with a chance to knock the target down.[4]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Fighter

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