Corruption Exploit

Wiki wrote:

The primary means to remove corruption is through death.

Corrupt players will be able to utilize private storage in their Freeholds.

1. Play an assassin and own a freehold.
2. Stalk a gatherer until they've gathered a bunch of resources.
3. Attack them with all your burst damage.
4. If they attack you, kill them and repeat step 2.
5. If they don't attack you, kill them while they are green.
6. Return to your freehold and store all your items.
7. Get your character killed.
8. Respawn with no corruption, repeat step 2.

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SongRune

9. Have bounty hunters camp your freehold
10. Have gatherers avoid your freehold so you have to run further while camped by bounty hunters.

Your stats will also be going down, and down, and down, as you do this, unless you work off all the XP debt from your corruption (as the ever-increasing PK count continues to make it worse each time). Per the wiki, stat damping from XP debt not apply only to corrupted players.

Jahlon

7a Gain 8% to 12% of a level in negative XP
7b Making your character useless in equal level PVP until you grind that off
7c Remember that it takes 45 days 4-6 hours a day to reach max level, so 12% of a level is no small amount of XP
7d Realize that stealing from caravans would be better for more resources in less time with no corruption

worddog2

SongRune wrote: »

9. Have bounty hunters camp your freehold
10. Have gatherers avoid your freehold so you have to run further while camped by bounty hunters.

Your stats will also be going down, and down, and down, as you do this, unless you work off all the XP debt from your corruption (as the ever-increasing PK count continues to make it worse each time). Per the wiki, stat damping from XP debt not apply only to corrupted players.

Jahlon wrote: »

7a Gain 8% to 12% of a level in negative XP
7b Making your character useless in equal level PVP until you grind that off
7c Remember that it takes 45 days 4-6 hours a day to reach max level, so 12% of a level is no small amount of XP
7d Realize that stealing from caravans would be better for more resources in less time with no corruption

From what I read, XP debt was only one of the methods, you can die to remove all negative effects of corruption. So dying enough times would make you essentially the same as a fresh green player.

Also freeholds are safe zones at all times except for node sieges.

If you're an assassin or some class with a stealth mechanic it should be a lot easier to travel undetected.

SongRune

worddog wrote: »

SongRune wrote: »

9. Have bounty hunters camp your freehold
10. Have gatherers avoid your freehold so you have to run further while camped by bounty hunters.

Your stats will also be going down, and down, and down, as you do this, unless you work off all the XP debt from your corruption (as the ever-increasing PK count continues to make it worse each time). Per the wiki, stat damping from XP debt not apply only to corrupted players.

Jahlon wrote: »

7a Gain 8% to 12% of a level in negative XP
7b Making your character useless in equal level PVP until you grind that off
7c Remember that it takes 45 days 4-6 hours a day to reach max level, so 12% of a level is no small amount of XP
7d Realize that stealing from caravans would be better for more resources in less time with no corruption

From what I read, XP debt was only one of the methods, you can die to remove all negative effects of corruption. So dying enough times would make you essentially the same as a fresh green player.

Also freeholds are safe zones at all times except for node sieges.

If you're an assassin or some class with a stealth mechanic it should be a lot easier to travel undetected.

XP Debt is a normal death penalty for non-corrupt players. Dying won't remove that. Stat damping is an effect of XP debt.

Dying lowers your corruption level, and brings you closer to being Green again, but it won't get rid of death penalties that even Green players experience. End result: You're Green and have a ton of XP debt and therefore stat damping.

It's true that you can't be killed and drop your items now, but you're not free from penalty entirely.

Dygz

worddog wrote: »

1. Play an assassin and own a freehold.
2. Stalk a gatherer until they've gathered a bunch of resources.
3. Attack them with all your burst damage.
4. If they attack you, kill them and repeat step 2.
5. If they don't attack you, kill them while they are green.
6. Return to your freehold and store all your items.
7. Get your character killed.
8. Respawn with no corruption, repeat step 2.

You still have 4x the normal death penalties when you die, so... I don't see what the exploit is.

Strevi

worddog wrote: »

7. Get your character killed.

... and lose durability on your gear. Do you know how expensive will be to repair it?

DarkTides

At max level, xp debt will be awaiting an xpac lvl boost

SongRune

Strevi wrote: »

worddog wrote: »

7. Get your character killed.

... and lose durability on your gear. Do you know how expensive will be to repair it?

Of course, the whole point was that he'd put his gear in the storage in his freehold before he died. Good try though.

worddog2

SongRune wrote: »

worddog wrote: »

SongRune wrote: »

9. Have bounty hunters camp your freehold
10. Have gatherers avoid your freehold so you have to run further while camped by bounty hunters.

Your stats will also be going down, and down, and down, as you do this, unless you work off all the XP debt from your corruption (as the ever-increasing PK count continues to make it worse each time). Per the wiki, stat damping from XP debt not apply only to corrupted players.

Jahlon wrote: »

7a Gain 8% to 12% of a level in negative XP
7b Making your character useless in equal level PVP until you grind that off
7c Remember that it takes 45 days 4-6 hours a day to reach max level, so 12% of a level is no small amount of XP
7d Realize that stealing from caravans would be better for more resources in less time with no corruption

From what I read, XP debt was only one of the methods, you can die to remove all negative effects of corruption. So dying enough times would make you essentially the same as a fresh green player.

Also freeholds are safe zones at all times except for node sieges.

If you're an assassin or some class with a stealth mechanic it should be a lot easier to travel undetected.

XP Debt is a normal death penalty for non-corrupt players. Dying won't remove that. Stat damping is an effect of XP debt.

Dying lowers your corruption level, and brings you closer to being Green again, but it won't get rid of death penalties that even Green players experience. End result: You're Green and have a ton of XP debt and therefore stat damping.

It's true that you can't be killed and drop your items now, but you're not free from penalty entirely.

But isn't the whole point of corruption that the penalty isn't very big unless you have a lot of corruption?

If you're playing for 8 hours and kill a green, how long will it take to work off that single PK XP debt? 1 hour? 2? 3?

If it takes 10 hours to work off a single PK penalty, I just wouldn't PvP.

George_Black

Are you gona post anything good any time soon, or just more trivial stuff?

Depraved

worddog wrote: »

SongRune wrote: »

9. Have bounty hunters camp your freehold
10. Have gatherers avoid your freehold so you have to run further while camped by bounty hunters.

Your stats will also be going down, and down, and down, as you do this, unless you work off all the XP debt from your corruption (as the ever-increasing PK count continues to make it worse each time). Per the wiki, stat damping from XP debt not apply only to corrupted players.

Jahlon wrote: »

7a Gain 8% to 12% of a level in negative XP
7b Making your character useless in equal level PVP until you grind that off
7c Remember that it takes 45 days 4-6 hours a day to reach max level, so 12% of a level is no small amount of XP
7d Realize that stealing from caravans would be better for more resources in less time with no corruption

From what I read, XP debt was only one of the methods, you can die to remove all negative effects of corruption. So dying enough times would make you essentially the same as a fresh green player.

Also freeholds are safe zones at all times except for node sieges.

If you're an assassin or some class with a stealth mechanic it should be a lot easier to travel undetected.

dying removes more corruption than farming monsters. doesnt mean if you die once u gonna be at 0 corruption.

worddog2

Depraved wrote: »

worddog wrote: »

SongRune wrote: »

9. Have bounty hunters camp your freehold
10. Have gatherers avoid your freehold so you have to run further while camped by bounty hunters.

Your stats will also be going down, and down, and down, as you do this, unless you work off all the XP debt from your corruption (as the ever-increasing PK count continues to make it worse each time). Per the wiki, stat damping from XP debt not apply only to corrupted players.

Jahlon wrote: »

7a Gain 8% to 12% of a level in negative XP
7b Making your character useless in equal level PVP until you grind that off
7c Remember that it takes 45 days 4-6 hours a day to reach max level, so 12% of a level is no small amount of XP
7d Realize that stealing from caravans would be better for more resources in less time with no corruption

From what I read, XP debt was only one of the methods, you can die to remove all negative effects of corruption. So dying enough times would make you essentially the same as a fresh green player.

Also freeholds are safe zones at all times except for node sieges.

If you're an assassin or some class with a stealth mechanic it should be a lot easier to travel undetected.

dying removes more corruption than farming monsters. doesnt mean if you die once u gonna be at 0 corruption.

Yeah but you can just die as many times as you want cuz you take off your gear and stuff.

Strevi

SongRune wrote: »

Strevi wrote: »

worddog wrote: »

7. Get your character killed.

... and lose durability on your gear. Do you know how expensive will be to repair it?

Of course, the whole point was that he'd put his gear in the storage in his freehold before he died. Good try though.

I thought corrupted players cannot unequip gear. Most likely was only a suggestion on forum.

SongRune

Strevi wrote: »

SongRune wrote: »

Strevi wrote: »

worddog wrote: »

7. Get your character killed.

... and lose durability on your gear. Do you know how expensive will be to repair it?

Of course, the whole point was that he'd put his gear in the storage in his freehold before he died. Good try though.

I thought corrupted players cannot unequip gear. Most likely was only a suggestion on forum.

The Corruption wiki page has no mention of that. It wouldn't have been strange as a forum suggestion, though, so you did probably hear it here.

Dygz

worddog wrote: »

But isn't the whole point of corruption that the penalty isn't very big unless you have a lot of corruption?

If you're playing for 8 hours and kill a green, how long will it take to work off that single PK XP debt? 1 hour? 2? 3?

If it takes 10 hours to work off a single PK penalty, I just wouldn't PvP.

Expect it to take 4x the time it takes for the Non-Combatant you killed to work off ther death penalties.

superhero6785

Ultimately, it comes down to testing. If this does become exploitable in some way, the easy solution is to implement diminishing returns from death. That way, killing yourself over and over in quick succession won't reduce your Corruption in any meaningful way. Perhaps a 1 hour Corruption Death debuff cooldown? Dying while under this debuff won't reduce your Corruuption any further? You can't escape the punishment!

Ludullu

worddog wrote: »

Yeah but you can just die as many times as you want cuz you take off your gear and stuff.

If you have literal hundreds of hours to constantly relevel yourself after killing a single fucking gatherer who only drops a portion of his mats (hell, even if it's 50% it's still barely anything) why in the fuck would you not just make an alt, level it up as a gatherer and go gather the same stuff but in much bigger quantities in much shorter time?

Or do what Jahlon said - go raid a caravan and get away with xDozens more mats than what you'd get from a single gatherer.

Oh, also "stalk a gatherer until they're worth a kill" too

So you're not only wasting time removing XP debt, but you're also literally standing around waiting for a dude to gather some grass. Amazing way to spend you in-game time. Genius even.

worddog2

George_Black wrote: »

Are you gona post anything good any time soon, or just more trivial stuff?

Why are you saying that like I'm a content creator or something, I'm just posting on a forum bro lol

worddog2

NiKr wrote: »

worddog wrote: »

Yeah but you can just die as many times as you want cuz you take off your gear and stuff.

If you have literal hundreds of hours to constantly relevel yourself after killing a single fucking gatherer who only drops a portion of his mats (hell, even if it's 50% it's still barely anything) why in the fuck would you not just make an alt, level it up as a gatherer and go gather the same stuff but in much bigger quantities in much shorter time?

Or do what Jahlon said - go raid a caravan and get away with xDozens more mats than what you'd get from a single gatherer.

Oh, also "stalk a gatherer until they're worth a kill" too So you're not only wasting time removing XP debt, but you're also literally standing around waiting for a dude to gather some grass. Amazing way to spend you in-game time. Genius even.

Green players drop more resources than purple players.

Why would it take hundreds of hours to remove corruption after a single PK? If that was the case you might as well have opt-in PvP cuz it's the same thing.

worddog2

superhero6785 wrote: »

Ultimately, it comes down to testing. If this does become exploitable in some way, the easy solution is to implement diminishing returns from death. That way, killing yourself over and over in quick succession won't reduce your Corruption in any meaningful way. Perhaps a 1 hour Corruption Death debuff cooldown? Dying while under this debuff won't reduce your Corruuption any further? You can't escape the punishment!

I just wonder at what point does it all become meaningless. Like either corruption is too weak and PKers just find a way around it, or it's so strong that no one PKs.

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