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what year can we expect the alpha 2? early next year? late next year? any predictions at least?

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predictions:
alpha 2 will launch between april - june 2023
they said all classes will be available for alpha 2 and if i remember correctly, the bard and either the rogue or the warrior were going to be in alpha 1, so probably those classes are pretty close to be ready and they are just tweaking them.
i think they will reveal one class every 2 months with other types of updates in between. plus, they said in the last stream that they will show more about the sub class and augment system in a few more streams, so probably before 2023 is over. we are missing the bard, the rogue and the summoner ( i think they showed the warrior in the last melee update?).

they are probably going to do a magic combat update and show the summoner (or the bard, hopefully not more of the mage hahaha) at the end of november, then the augment system in december, then another class in january, and the last one in march then alpha

Electronn

At this point I'd settle for a date on nodes 3.

Liniker

CROW3 wrote: »

Crafting a good game.

tbh, you can't say that....yet

only after it's done we can say if it's good or bad

as of now.. there is no game

DeadlyDave

It be cool if they could open up a bit of Vera for the Alpha 2 investors.
Character creation & a bit of running round until level 20.

Ironhope

My guess, looking at the development they've made so far and the stuff they still have to do:

Probably late 2023.

Beta mid-late 2024.

Release late 2024 or early 2025.

Alpha 2 needs to look very good for an alpha.

This game is very hyped and it is going to be advertising as much as it's going to be important for testing.

Large numbers of people will base their opinion on what they will see in streams/videos in regards to Alpha 2.

Even as an Alpha 2 it will need to have interesting stuff, look nice and everything.

If they were going to release it purely for testing purposes, sure, early 2023 would be my guess too.

But that would be just unwise and I haven't seen Intrepid be unwise much so far.

DeadlyDave

By 2025 the GeForce 4090 will have the same benchmarks as a potato. End up being a 300 Gigabyte DL.

novercalis

FweeWifry wrote: »

what year can we expect the alpha 2? early next year? late next year? any predictions at least?

not in your lifetime... just give up

this is AOC - the game is in the forums.. already been release.

Sengarden

I've been trying to estimate how many monthly updates away we are based on the content goals for A2. I think we still need one update for each of the following:

1-4: The last four zones that haven't been shown yet on the Western continent that A2 is taking place on. Someone please correct me if Steven has already said some of the circled regions won't be in A2:

5-6: Processing and Crafting Classes

7: Naval Content

8: Updated Caravans

9: Final Node Update, stages four and five, potentially stage six.

10: Mount Abilities / Combat (Might be included in the Processing Class Update)

11-12: Updated Sword and Board Combat and Spellcasting Combat

13-14: Updated Node Sieges + Ruins and Guild Castles + Sieges

15: Updated Freeholds

Some of these things might end up being skipped over or doubled up on as we get closer to A2. Little things would likely be tucked in as extras along the way - the rest of the player-races featured in-game as well as more NPC races, more mount types, the land conservation system, surveying, etc.

Judging by all this A2-confirmed content yet to be shown off to us, I'd say we're unlikely to see A2 drop until the very end of 2023. The studio is still hiring more senior developers in many areas, so if they pick up more employees between now and A2, that could speed up development time as well.

That being said, I'm still hopeful that Steven and the team are sitting on a growing supply of update videos that they've just been hiding from us and are secretly planning some big announcement for next summer. Fingers crossed!

Nova_terra

I am not sure why it would be expected that Steven and the team has to show everything prior to A2? I mean sure there are definitely things they will touch on but they have 1.5 hours a month to drop info so I doubt we will see everything prior to A2.

Hinotori

Nova_terra wrote: »

I am not sure why it would be expected that Steven has to show everything prior to A2? I mean sure there are definitely things they will touch on but they have 1.5 hours a month to drop info so I doubt we will see everything prior to A2.

We aren't supposed to. Steven has also said alot of things wont be there at the beginning of A2. But will be there by the end of A2.

Nova_terra

Natasha wrote: »

Nova_terra wrote: »

I am not sure why it would be expected that Steven has to show everything prior to A2? I mean sure there are definitely things they will touch on but they have 1.5 hours a month to drop info so I doubt we will see everything prior to A2.

We aren't supposed to. Steven has also said alot of things wont be there at the beginning of A2. But will be there by the end of A2.

That's what I am saying.. Maybe I am misunderstanding but it seems like a lot of people are marking a timeframe based on what we "haven't seen" like we have to see everything that is going to be at A2 before they are allowed to start A2. Like I said, seems like they have limited time and are trying to show exciting things to drum up interest. Especially with the recent influx of eyes on this game.

Veeshan

Pure speculation but my hunch is Alpha 2 will consist of about the southern half of the western continent and come around March 2023, you probaly wont see anything major naval wise maybe a non warship boat like a small raft kinda thing to test sailing out but i think we will get the major naval stuff a few months into alpha and we also see some of the eastern continent i suspect too.

That being said the western continent is definetly the one they have completed most of my hunch here is the biomes with a name on them ion there updated world map are the zones that are completed as of release of that map so 4 on the west and 1 on the east, so alpha 2 will consist of the junark, riverlands, and desert at the beginning with maybe some bleed in from the surrounding biomes like the badlands and the tropics (Which was alpha 1 biome so might be close to being done too), steven said 2 months back i beleive with the monthly dev vid, that the alpha 2 will be a significent cross section of the riverlands, desert forest and a bit of the bad lands, he also said he hit a significent internal milestone too ion the same livestream which Could of been the completion of the alpha 2 map biome area or something else now there just waiting for other systems before alpha2. But thats just a theory, an AoC theory

Sengarden

Nova_terra wrote: »

I am not sure why it would be expected that Steven and the team has to show everything prior to A2? I mean sure there are definitely things they will touch on but they have 1.5 hours a month to drop info so I doubt we will see everything prior to A2.

They don't have to. @Natasha is correct as well, Steven has stated that A2 will not be feature complete at launch. But I think it should be pretty well fleshed out. Do we have to see every biome before A2 rolls out? No. But they've asked for our input on the two zones they've showed us so far. Why wouldn't they want it on the others before A2? This same question goes for almost all the things on the list I made.

The only items on my list that I can foresee being pushed out further past the launch of A2 would be the 6th node tier, naval content, and maybe mount abilities and combat. Everything else on that list is pretty essential to experiencing the game as intended within the first couple months.

Now, just because I think the majority of the things on that list should be in place before the launch of A2 doesn't mean Steven needs to show us all of them, you're correct. But again, would Intrepid rather not get at least some feedback on how these systems look/function before they make this grand A2 reveal that they keep saying is oh so important to get right from the beginning?

I dunno, I think we're gonna see quite a few more monthly updates before A2 launches. Maybe we'll get a surprise next summer if they start doubling up on content reveals and community feedback requests soon.

Myosotys

The progress of the game seems to be good. I think the devs will rest for the holidays. They will resume work around mid-January for a release of the Alpha 2 in March.

Beta 1 : September 2023
Beta 2 : March 2024
Release of AOC : September 2024

WHIT3ROS3

I think the idea of Alpha 2 launching in March next year is way off. I think 2023 = continued development. 2024 Testing. 2025 = Launch.

DeadlyDave

July 2023 Alpha 2.
February 2024 Beta 1.
June 2024 Beta 2.
Release of AoC : Ocotober 2024 ( Maybe? )
It's hard to say what sort of state Steven is prepared to launch AoC in.
Will it still contain 10% or 20% .... etc of bugs yet to be squashed ?

Ironhope

Intrepid made it clear they want the game released in a polished state.

They saw very well what happened with New World, Cyberpunk 2077, etc and there's no way they're going to repeat that mistake.

Of course there will be bugs. But as long as they're the exception and not the rule, things will be fine.

Glir

Sengarden wrote: »

I've been trying to estimate how many monthly updates away we are based on the content goals for A2. I think we still need one update for each of the following:

1-4: The last four zones that haven't been shown yet on the Western continent that A2 is taking place on. Someone please correct me if Steven has already said some of the circled regions won't be in A2:

5-6: Processing and Crafting Classes

7: Naval Content

8: Updated Caravans

9: Final Node Update, stages four and five, potentially stage six.

10: Mount Abilities / Combat (Might be included in the Processing Class Update)

11-12: Updated Sword and Board Combat and Spellcasting Combat

13-14: Updated Node Sieges + Ruins and Guild Castles + Sieges

15: Updated Freeholds

Some of these things might end up being skipped over or doubled up on as we get closer to A2. Little things would likely be tucked in as extras along the way - the rest of the player-races featured in-game as well as more NPC races, more mount types, the land conservation system, surveying, etc.

Judging by all this A2-confirmed content yet to be shown off to us, I'd say we're unlikely to see A2 drop until the very end of 2023. The studio is still hiring more senior developers in many areas, so if they pick up more employees between now and A2, that could speed up development time as well.

That being said, I'm still hopeful that Steven and the team are sitting on a growing supply of update videos that they've just been hiding from us and are secretly planning some big announcement for next summer. Fingers crossed!

1-4: Riverland will be a biggest biome at Alpha 2, as Steven said that on stream at the end of May, 2022. Other locations probably done, they showed development of desert and even trailer (not cinematic).

5-6. The crafting mechanics here are not hard to develop, just like in old-school MMORPG. They don't have to do anything new, the core mechanics worked for A1. Click here, click there and get the item.

9. Steven replied to this question in mid-July:
Q. when do you think the team will have node perks and buildings mapped out for all 4 node types?
A. Those have been completed for a little while now, and are still undergoing implementation and testing (discord)
From this we udnerstand, that the Metropolis is ready and they are testing it (perks are only at level 6-stage)

10. Actually, I think hardest part here is skill-development. Main archetypes and also augments progression, tons of animations, mechanics. So waiting for that.

11-12. as previously mentioned, we are waiting for a demonstration of combat system.

7, 8, 13, 14, 15 points: One year they are working on that, so probably there these mostly done.

Don't forget A2 at the begining not gonna have all game-mechanics.
In my humble opinion Alpha 2 comes around July 2023 - Two years after A1:)

Dygz

Seems like we will have some spot tests similar to the ones before Alpha 1, so...
Alpha 2 in March 2023 is unlikely.

Glir

Dygz wrote: »

Seems like we will have some spot tests similar to the ones before Alpha 1, so...
Alpha 2 in March 2023 is unlikely.

Steven said at the last AMA: spot-tests for A1 and A2 pachage holders would begin within a few months.

P.S. Watching now the latest episode Theory Forge, where you said AoC will be released in 2025.

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