*old post - lack of information on cosmetics

Hi, I'd like to make a suggestion and ask other members of the community what is your opinion on this. I'm starting to get frustrated with the social media and marketing team for all their daily posts that only showcase exclusive skins that people paid $250 or $375 to get and are no longer available for new community members.

I don't understand what's the reason behind this decision, you are not "saving the good stuff" for launch by not showing an in-game obtainable lion mount, and only showing off the cool-looking black and purple lion. This only contributes to the "Ashes of Cosmetics" meme and I keep seeing people being misled commenting on these posts assuming they will be able to get what they think are mounts/pets/armor.

I've also seen people commenting stuff like "will your game have X mount/pet?" and your twitter account replying yes with an image of some exclusive skin misleading the person to believe that you are showing an actual mount/pet that they will be able to obtain.

I want to believe intrepid when you say these skins help you build the models for the variations and stuff, so please, instead of your posts being 99% skins and 1% in-game stuff, make it 90% in-game stuff and 10% skins, or, if for some reason you just don't want to show as many in-game mounts/pets even tho you already show the models as skins, just stop making daily posts with images and videos only showing these expensive skins, or at least make it clear that those are skins and you will have in-game variations but you don't want to show it.

I also hope that for Alpha 2, you don't the same as in Alpha 1, where most of the mounts and armor sets were exclusive skins that people can no longer obtain, especially because Alpha 2 will be a big showcase, and will be up and running for a long period of time.

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Dygz

Technically, he's not wrong, but it's nitpicky enough to be irrelevant.
The tweets primarily exist to demonstrate development from 2D concept art to 3D models and to interact with Community by sharing stuff they are working on and asking for feedback about what fans would like to see in-game.
They might take some of the mount suggestions and put them in the game.

It is too late to get those shinies which is why I said it's not about Marketing.
It's not really about what people can purchase - rather it's about the progress they are making during development...and having some fun with the fans.

Rather than only having communication with the devs once per month, we get a tiny bit of interaction almost every day. Sometimes multiple times per day.

Marcet

Ive seen more unobtainable skins and mounts than actual enemy mobs in the game

Ludullu

Marcet wrote: »

Ive seen more unobtainable skins and mounts than actual enemy mobs in the game

All the unobtainable skins and mounts ARE enemy mobs in the game

Marcet

NiKr wrote: »

Marcet wrote: »

Ive seen more unobtainable skins and mounts than actual enemy mobs in the game

All the unobtainable skins and mounts ARE enemy mobs in the game

lol good one

DaffyDux

I really don't understand the complaint here. Nearly every game that is developed shows off assets that will appear. Which these are. Why would you be able to wear everything, that every character in the game can wear? No other game does this.

Whilst I do agree that it would be nice to see some more in-game sets and racial variations I think the accusation that there is some kind of nefarious bait and switch going on isn't fair IMO.

Taleof2Cities

It might be a more serious issue if we were talking about a required purchase or pay-to-win in-game items, @Liniker.

However, these are cosmetics ... an entirely optional purchase.

Ashes won't be the first (or last) MMO to market/promote items in a cosmetic shop.

Which means this reply early in the thread still applies:

Tyranthraxus wrote: »

Your point is half-moot, since the team has let us know that the VAST majority of cosmetics will have in-game, obtainable variants.

Steven Sharif is an experienced gamer himself, and doesn't want the best-looking stuff to be bought-only.

LukasVelez

However, if they are not ready to show in-game content, just don't show anything or post something else. I don't like that they have been posting daily images and videos for years while only showcasing skins, which is misleading to the public. My point is not that they should be showing all the in-game content; I agree that it is too early for that. That's just a dishonest method of marketing, in my opinion. I've seen a few bloggers who really made a show out of it, even though they promoted the account through https://famoid.com/buy-instagram-followers/, but they worked on it for many months

George_Black

LukasVelez wrote: »

However, if they are not ready to show in-game content, just don't show anything or post something else. I don't like that they have been posting daily images and videos for years while only showcasing skins, which is misleading to the public

Did you just make an account to necro this?

TheDarkSorcerer

Halloween is over guys, no need to bring zombie threads back to life

George_Black

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

Halloween is over guys, no need to bring zombie threads back to life

Unless that person has an agenta. To harm the image of IS.

Liniker

George_Black wrote: »

LukasVelez wrote: »

However, if they are not ready to show in-game content, just don't show anything or post something else. I don't like that they have been posting daily images and videos for years while only showcasing skins, which is misleading to the public

Did you just make an account to necro this?

are you fucking stupid?

Liniker

this post is 6 months old, I even changed my mind (to some degree) after reading some of the comments, no reason to bring this shit up again

George_Black

Liniker wrote: »

George_Black wrote: »

LukasVelez wrote: »

However, if they are not ready to show in-game content, just don't show anything or post something else. I don't like that they have been posting daily images and videos for years while only showcasing skins, which is misleading to the public

Did you just make an account to necro this?

are you fucking stupid?

Sus. Who was talking to you? I quoted another forum user.

I've seen that you dare to call me names on occasion. I've et it slide till now. But I must say, i bet you dont call names ppl out on the street. You dont dare when there isnt the safety of a screen to seperate you from the laws of action-reaction.
I bet. Now, mind your words son. Settle down.

Liniker

George_Black wrote: »

Sus. Who was talking to you? I quoted another forum user.

I'm the OP genius, I get notifications when people comment here, and you are trying to imply I made another account to revive it, try again sherlock.

George_Black

Liniker wrote: »

George_Black wrote: »

Sus. Who was talking to you? I quoted another forum user.

I'm the OP genius, I get notifications when people comment here, and you are trying to imply I made another account to revive it, try again sherlock.

No I wasnt. I was saying that that person made the acc and post at the exact same minute.
Why choose to talk about anything else, besides cosmetics, a controversial issue.

I dont care about you Liniker. I dont like the shit you type.
So settle down. Dont jump to conclusions. Dont get excited. Also dont quote me. You dont have what it takes.

Liniker

George_Black wrote: »

I dont care about you Liniker. I dont like the shit you type.

Ok, so just stfu.

George_Black

Liniker wrote: »

George_Black wrote: »

I dont care about you Liniker

Ok, so just stfu.

Man... go do that stuff in the real life. Dont... dont act like that online. It's safe, it doesnt have a meaning.
Ima start reporting your insults from now on. Calm down son..
Catch your breath. Take it ez, you gonna be alright.

Liniker

George_Black wrote: »

I've et it slide till now. But I must say, i bet you dont call names ppl out on the street. You dont dare when there isnt the safety of a screen to seperate you from the laws of action-reaction.
I bet. Now, mind your words son. Settle down.

George_Black wrote: »

Man... go do that stuff in the real life. Dont... dont act like that online. It's safe, it doesnt have a meaning.

You just look like a clown trying to make yourself look tough to people online. Literally, nobody cares, I see you as 16yo kid.

I didn't call you names, I made a question, I asked if you are stupid, for your first comment, and many others you made in the past. If someone asking you if you are stupid hurts your feelings and make go to "online fight mode" I suggest therapy. Now please, stfu I'll mute this post.

George_Black

Liniker wrote: »

George_Black wrote: »

I've et it slide till now. But I must say, i bet you dont call names ppl out on the street. You dont dare when there isnt the safety of a screen to seperate you from the laws of action-reaction.
I bet. Now, mind your words son. Settle down.

George_Black wrote: »

Man... go do that stuff in the real life. Dont... dont act like that online. It's safe, it doesnt have a meaning.

You just look like a clown trying to make yourself look tough to people online. Literally, nobody cares, I see you as 16yo kid.

I didn't call you names, I made a question, I asked if you are stupid, for your first comment, and many others you made in the past. If someone asking you if you are stupid hurts your feelings and make go to "online fight mode" I suggest therapy. Now please, stfu I'll mute this post.

No you wont mute this post... dont lie.

I also like the fact that you replied to me first thing, instead of the guy that necroed your boring thread.
Heck, I never even bored to comment on the actual topic from all this time ago, because it was pointless.
All I did was point out that agenta motivated and created acc. I didnt even name you cause I dont want to talk to you.

You seem to do though. Many times you try to take me on. Let it go son. Talk to the other guys with which you share a love-to-hate me club.
You cant help yourself. You wanna get up here.

Feel free to delete the OP. Would be nice.

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