Magic inspiration

If the kind imaginative folk could please link or make mention of any videos from movies, or elsewhere, that you believe contain magic spells with great visual effects that could be used in game?

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LordBlank

Since we're posting, here is my battle mage skill inspiration.

https://youtu.be/MQSrEcqg8gA

DarkTides

If we had a speed/haste contested stat.... for dodge/block/parry....and even for attacks....improve speed haste, you get this, easier to hit opponent and dodge. Animation increases in blurriness as stat difference increases

@ 1min roughly

https://youtu.be/fq5Uhz-JAOQ?t=65

and of course some wizardry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02pr2W7FT-c

GroundBird

Demi from FFX:

https://youtu.be/1bgPdXuL--0?t=23

Veyrah

I'd like to see some magic circles and runes incorporated in the spells. That way you make the spells identifiable whilst casting (depending on cast time this could be a weakness to be exploited in PVP, which could mean some power budget elsewhere). It also just looks very cool, and I like it when the magic system is explained in a fantasy world. Good world building is understanding how magic works, the rules that are used for it. So a spell visuals could correspond to the runes of the element/spell type being cast.

Veeshan

GoreGoth wrote: »

following the kind of aesthetic this game is going for I would never want any spell inspiration that comes from an anime. Those stay in FF14

Not all of them are over the top tbh some of them are rather simply from those animation ones some are redonculous though however they can have a place too tbh in the game. If the game has "Ultimate spells" like long ass cooldown ones then the overe the top animation can work for those but u dont want to go over the top with the giant spell effects. But quite a few spells in anime are rather unique and not over the top that would work well for AoC

Lust69

https://youtu.be/uk5MQS3Tino

LordBlank

Veeshan wrote: »

GoreGoth wrote: »

following the kind of aesthetic this game is going for I would never want any spell inspiration that comes from an anime. Those stay in FF14

Not all of them are over the top tbh some of them are rather simply from those animation ones some are redonculous though however they can have a place too tbh in the game. If the game has "Ultimate spells" like long ass cooldown ones then the overe the top animation can work for those but u dont want to go over the top with the giant spell effects. But quite a few spells in anime are rather unique and not over the top that would work well for AoC

This is true. The attack animation from the anime video I posted earlier is OP but it only activates after a 120-hit combo. So there is nothing wrong with having flashy ults if it's balanced right.

LordBlank

ariatras wrote: »

All these anime magic sequences seem way too flashy too me. Imagine that non-sense in sieges.
I personally prefer magic to be more then just damage and things.

Creative spells such as Thaumaturgy, Prestidigitation, Knock etc seem way more fun

There's nothing wrong with some flashy and OP attacks if it's balanced correctly by how often they can be used or by having certain criteria to activate them.

Lust69

Not sure if this was mentioned and it’s quite simple but in other games I’ve enjoyed levelling up a magic from say one to three and it gets stronger and a bigger visual effect on each level. “Fireball lvl 1” 100 damage and fireball animation. “Fireball lvl 2” 250 damage and bigger fireball animation. “Fireball lvl 3” 500 damage and massive fireball animation. To level up your magic you just need to cast it a certain amount of times. You get levels to every magic you train.

DarkTides

Summoner augments
Classes with a Summoner secondary may grant augmented skills that summon weapons. These summoned weapons are not able to be equipped.[5]
The word "equip" only applies to items. There are currently no plans to include summoning items into a player's inventory or character slots. It may however be possible to change the appearance and damage type/data of a weapon through the use of a spell.[6]
There are summoned weapons that appear as a spell VFX to damage opponents for a period of time.[7] These will not be able to be wielded, since weilding implies an item in a character equipment slot.[8]

https://youtu.be/y899G0TBvbU?t=261

https://youtu.be/7MjrXsEC024?t=70

https://youtu.be/FRcP-mcOHAU?t=23

DarkTides

Disintegration-esque spells....

Songcaller

Veyrah wrote: »

I'd like to see some magic circles and runes incorporated in the spells. That way you make the spells identifiable whilst casting (depending on cast time this could be a weakness to be exploited in PVP, which could mean some power budget elsewhere). It also just looks very cool, and I like it when the magic system is explained in a fantasy world. Good world building is understanding how magic works, the rules that are used for it. So a spell visuals could correspond to the runes of the element/spell type being cast.

Yeah, I love the idea too. Something like effects from Sorceror from Aion mixed with Cleric effects from Aion would be my perfect caster.

DarkTides

Would be nice to see some movie magic in the spell casting...

A means to indicate that a strong spell is being cast...some levitation, some people like runes..spin faster maybe..who knows....clothing/hair blowing around as the power of the spell effects its surroundings...a variable scale of intensity...

Songcaller

We had levitation for mage fireball...it didn't last long due to the silliness.

Galaturc

Veyrah wrote: »

Good world building is understanding how magic works, the rules that are used for it. So a spell visuals could correspond to the runes of the element/spell type being cast.

^This.
I'm all for color-coded magic runes and like that idea the most within this thread. I always felt unsatisfied with magic that is not based on semi-viable physics, I mean where do you get all that fire or ice magic that suddenly erupts from your hands or fingertips without harming the caster? Magical runes somewhat make sense in that, they become a gateway or a medium between a realm or dimension that source this vast energy or essence that is pouring from the caster, that otherwise does not exist in Verra.

Galaturc

Since we are on the topic of magic inspiration, I desire to hear the caster's loud incantations incorporated into the preparation and execution of each spell echoing as far as one can see these magic runes.

I discuss this in another post, but this game currently lacks any vocalization from our characters during combat, be it a tank roaring for a taunt, a ranger exclaiming a "hup" when executing an acrobatic salto, or loud caster incantations (i.e, "you shall NOT pass" but using a mystic/foreign language).

Electronn

Galaturc wrote: »

I always felt unsatisfied with magic that is not based on semi-viable physics, I mean where do you get all that fire or ice magic that suddenly erupts from your hands or fingertips without harming the caster?

It's *magic* ?

Galaturc

mcnasty wrote: »

It's *magic* ?

I am ready to suspend the need for realism and immerse in the lore if some ground rules for the source of magic are sufficiently explained and visually and vocally supported within the game.

DarkTides

Neurath wrote: »

We had levitation for mage fireball...it didn't last long due to the silliness.

Those early spell/abilities that they showed to everyone definitely didnt look ok... is that what the levitation looked like that you are referring to?

Songcaller

Well...if it wasn't levitation I'm not sure what else to call it. There was also another levitation spell for Mage which was overpowered and removed because they flew over everyone's heads and couldn't be hit very easily.

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