Alpha 2 HAS to be this year.

I don't say that because I hope it to be this year, but because it is necessary that it is. If Alpha 2 isn't this year, it's very likely that Ashes of Creation will be DOA. While excitement for the game remains high, it's waning. The community is desperate to play Alpha 2, even if it's not finished, even if it's full of bugs, even if there is very limited class and race selection. If they have to wait a whole nother year to play it, most won't want to play it at all and those who do will be dissatisfied, "we've waited this long for game development, for THIS?!". It won't matter that it's just an Alpha, they will be upset, no matter how good it is.
Intrepid, it HAS to be this year.

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MybroViajero

Steven responds to your request.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sUTuUAgavE&t=2552s

Kilion

IAmWarden01 wrote: »

I don't say that because I hope it to be this year, but because it is necessary that it is. If Alpha 2 isn't this year, it's very likely that Ashes of Creation will be DOA. While excitement for the game remains high, it's waning. The community is desperate to play Alpha 2, even if it's not finished, even if it's full of bugs, even if there is very limited class and race selection. If they have to wait a whole nother year to play it, most won't want to play it at all and those who do will be dissatisfied, "we've waited this long for game development, for THIS?!". It won't matter that it's just an Alpha, they will be upset, no matter how good it is.
Intrepid, it HAS to be this year.

No. The assumption that without Alpha 2 the game will be dead also seems overly confident about knowing the way all the fans think and the economics of making this game economically viable. It MIGHT be the case that not having any playable phase this year frustrates some followers so much that they will drop out of the active community or will abandon hope on this project altogether, but I doubt that just one percent of the people who have purchased Alpha 2 keys will say "not interested anymore" just because Alpha 2 might only release mid 2024. I don't see that happening.

daveywavey

IAmWarden01 wrote: »

I don't say that because I hope it to be this year, but because it is necessary that it is. If Alpha 2 isn't this year, it's very likely that Ashes of Creation will be DOA. While excitement for the game remains high, it's waning. The community is desperate to play Alpha 2, even if it's not finished, even if it's full of bugs, even if there is very limited class and race selection. If they have to wait a whole nother year to play it, most won't want to play it at all and those who do will be dissatisfied, "we've waited this long for game development, for THIS?!". It won't matter that it's just an Alpha, they will be upset, no matter how good it is.
Intrepid, it HAS to be this year.

IAmWarden01

I think the reactions in this thread are not because you think i'm wrong, but because you fear that i'm right.
Meanwhile I think i'm right, but hope i'm wrong.
Only time will tell.

Kilion

IAmWarden01 wrote: »

I think the reactions in this thread are not because you think i'm wrong, but because you fear that i'm right.
Meanwhile I think i'm right, but hope i'm wrong.
Only time will tell.

If that's the copium you need to take to deal with the fact that people don't agree with you - snort right up, my friend.
It's a game in Alpha state and if there is someone here on whose emotions one could make assumptions it's about yours and it smells like a lot of desperation in here. So leave the projections for now and let others enjoy observing the development process. I'm not in a hurry to play this, especially if that would reduce the quality of the game.

DevSeba

I think they can share the details of what they want to show us in Alpha 2 like a dungeon, house building, more classes, etc.

My forecast of final release is 2026.
I hope we receive a game that give us 20 years of fun.

McShave

we've waited like 7 or 8 years already. The development updates over the last year look promising. The longer we wait, the better the game will be. Alpha 2 will be soon, but to say it has to be this year will hamstring the project going forward.

Songcaller

Not convinced. Have other priorities over A2.

Wandering Mist

After seeing what happens when devs rush games out, I'm content to give Intrepid all the time they need to make this game as good as possible.

Galaturc

We will give them all the time they need. Stop requesting things you have no idea about. Entitlement...

WeGbored

Already feel like I've waited a decade.

I'd wait another one to get a game I'm passionate about again.

bloodprophet

Sounds more and more like your looking for an early release project.
These Alphas are true alpha's. System tests. Your not going into play the game. I think it will be like it was in alpha 1. There will be down time while they update stuff. There will be times when Steven will jump in Discord and server messages saying "Everybody come over here and do this. We are testing this thing."

Will you be ok when they wipe the server for the 3rd time in a week and you lose all progress, again? There was a bug in the A1 that was only fixed by deleting your toon and starting over.

Since you can't/won't answer my quests to you above thought I would help.
Remember this is a true Alpha test. We will be testing systems NOT content until late in A2. It is obvious many people do not understand this point based on al the chicken little threads.

Blip

If they dedicated some time in the streams to talk about what they are working on, and what not that will go along way.

Ok we got gameplay of tank last time but talk about what systems your are working on, what systems are done, whats your next on the to do list.

Whats the challange and so 4th.
Much more intresting and informative if you ask me.

But I agree Alpha 2 this year..

tautau

@Blip I though just about all they talk about in the streams is what they are working on.

Blip

tautau wrote: »

@Blip I though just about all they talk about in the streams is what they are working on.

They talk about one spesific thing not a overview of the month.

Atama

You set an arbitrary date and declared the entire project will die if your deadline is not met.

That's right, it's your deadline.

Why is it dead if Alpha 2 doesn't start by December 31st of this year? What if it starts January 2nd instead? Is it still dead? Why? Why would 2 days matter?

Can you see how ridiculous and absolutely lacking in reason and logic your statement is?

I can't help but think you're being deliberately inflammatory with your thread. That's pretty sad on your part.

We can talk about the cost of delays, of expectations not being met. We can talk about the patience of gamers and the public perception of the game as it relates to progress, and whether that is worth getting the game right. We can compare development time in this game to that of AAA MMORPGs, some of which went on to success and some that failed. Those are all useful discussions and we've had many of those discussions on the boards over the years.

Your thread is just throwing feces on the community for laughs.

STOP_THE_ASH_MONEY

Where is your outrage? Where is your balls? This game is taking it way too long for it to not possibly be them making a grip of money dragging their heals off monetization. For the past 3 years they've donated close to 200.000k to charities for Christmas. What's that tell me? They got money. Maybe hire TWO new developers for a year with that instead, no?

Meanwhile we sit here and listen to empty promises about it coming out in 2022 with a game that has been in development since probably 2016. because they released some decent as hell videos in 2017. they needed time to create those. check online about the announcement teailer in 2017.

I'm just not excited anymore I'm frustrated angry because it's been probably going to be a decade before this game is even going to have a release date. So we're looking at 2027.

You guys (and by guys I mean other people that were excited about this) are OK with this? Instead of coming on to forms and YouTube channels asking us what type of f****** music we want to listen to just put it in the game. Trial-and-error. You're not going to make everybody happy. You're always going to have some troll or some negative Nancy like myself who's going to point out numerous flaws. And there's going to be numerous bugs and flaws anyway Because that's the nature of this type of game.

So while you're trying to make everybody happy supposedly, you're making money off the side on your advertisement sends and montisation from YouTube. Is this really you guys trying to make everybody happy or just do you guys not have the balls to release the game? Are you afraid of failing? If that's the case and you shouldn't be in any type of business like this.

Alpha one was supposed to come out in August of 2022. Now we are being told nothing. There is no alpha one release date... let alone a frigging release date.

Please Intrepid just stop this. I don't know about other people but in my experience trying to make every one happy is a good way to be let down and still have someone who is going to will make it their life goal to be unhappy forever. They will knit pick and find some glitches or bugs or not like your music.

That's right. You are spending time asking questions like what type of music would you like to listen to? But guess what there's going to be a good majority of people who don't like the music you chose who thinking it's nerdy who or maybe it sounds like late night Cinemax music.

Intrepid you are going to have to get used to the above idea of failure.

And you'll tell me to get used to the idea of a 2028 release date.

hey, no. i wont
I have cancer.
thank burnnobpurs

Ruerik

Your logic doesn't hold at all.

But, having played failed game after failed game because they pushed it over the finish line from the halfway point, because they were greedy about making money finally. . .

I for one, and possibly several others even I dont know, are probably ok if the community excitement pre-launch dies down a lot. Even if A2 does not happen this year. I am grateful for Intrepid's passion for this project, and the determination they have shown us to take feedback and fix issues rather than try to shove crappy systems or things down the players throats, forcefeeding us and making us believe it is great.

It is a blessing to have gamers making a game. I dont mean people that play games, almost everyone plays games. A GAMER, someone who lives for the game, is what Stephen was looking for as part of his hiring process, and we are lucky to have it.

Have some patience if you can. If you have never created anything in your life before from the design phase, then realize that a project that takes several people, dozens of people, becomes significantly more complicated and time consuming than just one person dreaming up a system and writing some code to make it happen.

If this project dies for you, because you cant get into a --TESTING-- phase, might be better to just stop closely following the development with so much expectation, we all knew what we were getting into long ago when we first started supporting Intrepid.

I can promise you, regardless of when the next Alpha phase happens, than when the game releases in 2031, the launch population will be just as happy and excited and of the same scale of people than not. Believe it or not, the vast majority of MMO players do not buy into alpha or beta testing of new games. Ashes will be just fine.

Hinotori

STOP_THE_ASH_MONEY wrote: »

Alpha one was supposed to come out in August of 2022. Now we are being told nothing. There is no alpha one release date... let alone a frigging release date.

The good news is alpha one is already over. As for the rest of it. Just gotta let them cook. The progress is happening and plain to see which is why I feel there's no outrage.

WuqingYe

I feel like I need to remind everyone that people will have different opinions and that's OK. Some people are more passionate in how they express those opinions. This doesn't mean that spiteful words can be thrown around on either side to justify 'the cause'. In the end, everyone wants this game to succeed because we're all anxious to play this glorious MMO. Since we've gotta ride this boat together, let's not forget to be as patient with our fellow brethen as we are with Intrepid's progress.

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