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Gospell1

What do you think if giving less corruption points to pk at night?

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Arya_Yeshe

As an ambassador for elite ganking, I must admit that the idea of reduced corruption at night sounds delicious.

Songcaller

Why? What links to night does corruption have?

Galvyr

I just feel like this would cause problems.

Gospell1

Neurath wrote: »

Why? What links to night does corruption have?

Well, I think theoretically the killer at night is hard to recognize. Well, or let the players know that it’s dangerous to walk around at night

Songcaller

Yeah I get the ideation but it means people will turn purple at night and remain green in the day (those who would not normally turn purple) thus negating the system.

Arya_Yeshe

Corruption in the lore is spiritual corruption, it doesn't have to do with the law or anything mundane.

But... if you kill people in the PvP events you can kill milions and surprisingly doesn't corrupt your spirit

Gospell1

Neurath wrote: »

Yeah I get the ideation but it means people will turn purple at night and remain green in the day (those who would not normally turn purple) thus negating the system.

You probably misunderstood. I'm not talking about the flagging system. I'm talking about when a person gets a red nickname, but at night he gets less corruption points

Songcaller

It's difficult not to misunderstand with a one line question lol.

I'm not sure what the use will be. At the point a person is red the person is already handicapped. Night doesn't last very long relatively speaking so what benefit would the process have? Again, greens will learn to fight back at night making the red player more likely to die to a non bounty hunter.

Arya_Yeshe

Neurath wrote: »

It's difficult not to misunderstand with a one line question lol.

I'm not sure what the use will be. At the point a person is red the person is already handicapped. Night doesn't last very long relatively speaking so what benefit would the process have? Again, greens will learn to fight back at night making the red player more likely to die to a non bounty hunter.

Would benefit PKs who do a small kill just to get the red with the bare mininal of corruption points and then bait people into fights, could bring hidden friends.

Songcaller

I advised about the first blood pker but I was told I misunderstood. These flanking manoeuvres are not a very precise broadside.

Ludullu

This ain't TL, so no.

Chicago

sounds like a good idea to me

Solvryn

Gospell wrote: »

What do you think if giving less corruption points to pk at night?

I'll take a solid system worked out so there's less hand holding for everyone involved.

Kilion

Gospell wrote: »

Neurath wrote: »

Why? What links to night does corruption have?

Well, I think theoretically the killer at night is hard to recognize. Well, or let the players know that it’s dangerous to walk around at night

Looking at the lore, it seems to me that the corruption system is probably more of a "The Force" concept rather than "Law and Order". Harming the gods creation who were instructed to rebuild after the invasion of the Ancients is where the individual goes "against the will of the world" and hence becomes corrupted. And mind you, it only applies to those who attack those who cannot (or will not) put up a fight, so killing the most peaceful servants of the Gods is what makes you corrupted. "Bring the fight to those who are longing for it." so to speak.

Along that logic it doesn't make much sense that by night we suddenly get less corruption.

daveywavey

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

Neurath wrote: »

It's difficult not to misunderstand with a one line question lol.

I'm not sure what the use will be. At the point a person is red the person is already handicapped. Night doesn't last very long relatively speaking so what benefit would the process have? Again, greens will learn to fight back at night making the red player more likely to die to a non bounty hunter.

Would benefit PKs who do a small kill just to get the red with the bare mininal of corruption points and then bait people into fights, could bring hidden friends.

That in itself is a reason they won 't be implementing it. Corruption is not meant as a benefit. It's a punishment for forced PvP kills. You don't get Corruption from attacking someone that doesn't fight back, only from killing them.

Fighting someone that doesn't fight back isn't PvP. It's just P. If you're a PvP'er, you won't be looking to go Corrupted. You'll be looking for that extra "vP".

Edit: And, to the OP: Nope, it's a pretty shit idea. You can learn what the Corruption system is meant for at this following link: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_corruption

Allowing people to reduce the griefing punishment just because it's dark, goes against the whole point of system itself.

Arya_Yeshe

daveywavey wrote: »

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

Neurath wrote: »

It's difficult not to misunderstand with a one line question lol.

I'm not sure what the use will be. At the point a person is red the person is already handicapped. Night doesn't last very long relatively speaking so what benefit would the process have? Again, greens will learn to fight back at night making the red player more likely to die to a non bounty hunter.

Would benefit PKs who do a small kill just to get the red with the bare mininal of corruption points and then bait people into fights, could bring hidden friends.

That in itself is a reason they won 't be implementing it. Corruption is not meant as a benefit. It's a punishment for forced PvP kills. You don't get Corruption from attacking someone that doesn't fight back, only from killing them.

Fighting someone that doesn't fight back isn't PvP. It's just P. If you're a PvP'er, you won't be looking to go Corrupted. You'll be looking for that extra "vP".

Edit: And, to the OP: Nope, it's a pretty shit idea. You can learn what the Corruption system is meant for at this following link: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_corruption

Allowing people to reduce the griefing punishment just because it's dark, goes against the whole point of system itself.

The people who are farming and running dungeons are doing that just in that specific momment, later on they will come at you.

A kill is a kill, even gathering more wood is PvP, generating more wealth to your guild and node is PvP.

The PK wll be red, debuffed/capped, will suffer gear losses, won't be able to trade or use storages, will be red and that will be like a beacon to everybody wanting a free kill.

If the guy wants to bait people, then he is doing for this personal emotional thrill, the "benefit" will be that he will purify the corruption a few minutes faster.

daveywavey

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

the "benefit" will be that he will purify the corruption a few minutes faster.

Exactly. The design is that Corruption is discouraged, but not banned. They don't want you to find it easier to be Corrupted. Why would they implement this?

Arya_Yeshe

I swear, you will all be killed by zergs of purple and you will have no chance... later on you will find one of them while he is green and he will be picking flowers and mushrooms. He will be hiding behind a green flag and only come out of it when he has perfect conditions to steamroll you.

Carebears are all petty like that, when you come after them, then they pretend they nothing but victims.

Gospell1

daveywavey wrote: »

Allowing people to reduce the griefing punishment just because it's dark, goes against the whole point of system itself.

How does this conflict with the system? You just get less corruption points! flagges system will work correctly. Honestly. I would like the player to get pk status only when there is proof of his crime. PK is not a divine punishment, as the person suggested by the post above, this is justice. PK are wanted killers, not god-marked people. This game even made bounty hunters, but it's not fair that a player gets PK status without witnesses and evidence.

Songcaller

Red Alert

There will be tactics to pvp and the flagging system adds tactics.

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