Is there enough 24/7 structured PvP available?

The only structured PvP that is not time restricted, not limited to server prime-time (castle & node sieges & related fights) and not occasional (caravans,) is Node Wars and Guild Wars. From the wiki: "These can be declared at any time, but the quest objectives will only spawn during server prime-time, but players can kill each other at any time during the war (not only during server prime-time)."

So to always have PvP available a player will need to be part of a constantly waring node and/or guild.

I have not mentioned Naval PvP because that is 'between ships' according to the wiki, although players can use ranged skills. Nor am I considering corruption as that is likely small scale roamers at best.

So to get as much of an open-world PvP fix as I do on the GW2 WvW maps, I need to join a constantly waring node and/or guild. Right/Wrong/Good/Bad?

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BaSkA_9x2

From previous experience, even though I enjoy Arena it can get boring/sweaty after a while. For that reason I hope that Intrepid considers adding Battlegrounds to the game, which are basically Arena in a larger scale but with specific goals such as capture the flag or whatever.

Regarding the rewards for instanced PvP, I believe non-combat related rewards like cosmetics would be ideal to avoid people selling services in these activities.

Arya_Yeshe

BaSkA_9x2 wrote: »

From previous experience, even though I enjoy Arena it can get boring/sweaty after a while. For that reason I hope that Intrepid considers adding Battlegrounds to the game, which are basically Arena in a larger scale but with specific goals such as capture the flag or whatever.

Regarding the rewards for instanced PvP, I believe non-combat related rewards like cosmetics would be ideal to avoid people selling services in these activities.

Arena is not for everybody, it's a hard ladder grind where meta builds and hardcounters are thrown at you. Some games have better arenas, like Guild Wars 2 where everybody is scaled. World of Warcraft arena is trash, it is all gear based.

Battlegrounds is fantastic, kept me in WoW for a bit more time, but it's not scaled and extremely gear based too... this is why WoW's PvP is garbage to me, winning at WoW is always behind a wall of grinding after gear and this is why I left WoW.

Grinding after gear for PvP is just bonkers and a huge turn off.

Dezemi

Blindside wrote: »

As someone who values fair play and meaningful competition, I derive my satisfaction from taking on opponents who are on par with my skill level. The idea of preying on weaker players or engaging in unbalanced fights holds no appeal to me. That's not true competition - it's nothing more than bullying.

Structured PvP emphasizes the aspects of true sportsmanship, providing an environment where players can test their skills and compete on a level playing field. In contrast, open world PvP feels more like a random street fight, where anything goes, and the outcome is often determined by luck rather than skill.

However, I understand the appeal of both open world PvP and structured PvP. While structured PvP provides a level playing field and a competitive environment that rewards skill and strategy, open world PvP offers a more dynamic and immersive experience. I fully support those who enjoy both formats, but I believe that it's entirely subjective to say that one is more fulfilling than the other. Some gamers thrive in the highly-competitive environment of structured PvP, while others find joy in the spontaneous and unpredictable nature of open world PvP.

At the end of the day, what matters most is creating an environment where both can coexist and thrive.

I am a PvX player and I agree.

I love the sudden but memorable OWPvP and the adrenaline it gives. But I also love spending hours upon hours in structured PVP - be it battlegrounds in WoW or SWToR or WvW/sPvP in GW2.

I understand and accept if Ashes decide to not have lobby-based PvP at all - and I very much look forward to sieges and wars - but I will definitely miss the casual sense of structured PvP where I can swap from a lonely roamer to a supportive team player in an instant.

Dygz

I don't think you will be missing that all.
Ashes, by design, will have that a-plenty.

Kesthely

Trenker wrote: »

The only structured PvP that is not time restricted, not limited to server prime-time (castle & node sieges & related fights) and not occasional (caravans,) is Node Wars and Guild Wars. From the wiki: "These can be declared at any time, but the quest objectives will only spawn during server prime-time, but players can kill each other at any time during the war (not only during server prime-time)."

So to always have PvP available a player will need to be part of a constantly waring node and/or guild.

I have not mentioned Naval PvP because that is 'between ships' according to the wiki, although players can use ranged skills. Nor am I considering corruption as that is likely small scale roamers at best.

So to get as much of an open-world PvP fix as I do on the GW2 WvW maps, I need to join a constantly waring node and/or guild. Right/Wrong/Good/Bad?

What in all likelyhood will happen is that in certain regions "permanent" wars between entities will arrive and they will have lots of pvp incursions back and forth. When you build something up, someone else will want to tear it down, and that will result in conflict, so no i'm not afraid of not beeing able to log on and don't find pvp.

superhero6785

I don't know about y'all, but I'll be running caravans at 3am while the bandits are sleepin'

Come 1v1 me.

Arya_Yeshe

superhero6785 wrote: »

I don't know about y'all, but I'll be running caravans at 3am while the bandits are sleepin' Come 1v1 me.

That's the spirit!

In EVE, when we have something really expensive to be hauled, we do it minutes or seconds before downtime

If we get caught, the server will shutdown before dying

ClintHardwood

I have a feeling PvP will be dead in this game outside of specific scenarios. At this rate just get rid of corruption and overworld PKing altogether. It's a dead feature. Very little reward and high risk.

George_Black

ClintHardwood wrote: »

I have a feeling PvP will be dead in this game outside of specific scenarios. At this rate just get rid of corruption and overworld PKing altogether. It's a dead feature. Very little reward and high risk.

Not for organized groups of skilled mmo players.

Kilion

ClintHardwood wrote: »

I have a feeling PvP will be dead in this game outside of specific scenarios. At this rate just get rid of corruption and overworld PKing altogether. It's a dead feature. Very little reward and high risk.

Intrepid should delete features from the game because of feelings, instead of testing and adjusting the measures during the Alpha 2? Why?

Dygz

Steven is a hardcore PvPer. There is no way he's going to release Ashes of Creation with non-viable PvP.

Arya_Yeshe

Dygz wrote: »

Steven is a hardcore PvPer. There is no way he's going to release Ashes of Creation with non-viable PvP.

Near me, Steven is just another PvPer ... almost a carebear

I can fix AoC pvp even keeping the corruption and the flagging systems intact!!

hleV

Until they add optional permaflagging so that PvPers can roam the open world and more reliably find other PvPers, I don't think PvPers will have enough content.

Yuyukoyay

There is technically no way to turn pvp off so I'm sure you'll like it. I just wouldn't be a bandit because the overall city communities will just team up and kill you. This will be the biggest obstacle for pvp in general. City communities give the safety in this game.

You'll get pvp alright but city communities will probably out number them even if they are entire guilds.

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