Safety in the node

List of questions ok, I will say city instead of node because it makes easier for me, since when I say city I am specifically asking about the inner area of the node, I am excluding the influence zone in this case.

1. Since the sea is an automatic purple area what kind of area the city, is it an automatic green?

2. Can the city have purple people and so purple on purple fights?

3. If there is purple inside the city, can purple attack green?

4. What happens if there is a guild war and enemies meet each other inside the city and both are green and what happens if both green outside the city? Will fights happen without the need of setting to purple? I think it should happen as green, since I want to fight my enemy and not aggro random purple players to my fight

5. Can a red player walk into the city and attack people, I saw that there will be NPC guards, will the NPC guards insta kill players or they will offer long fights? Will these guards run around or magically insta kill people, like a miracle.

6. Can people kill NPC guards?

7. Can mobs kill NPC guards?

8. Can people pull a train of mobs and bring into the city? I hope so, in WoW this is a blast

Sorry the questions about the small details, but the small details were not found in the wiki.
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Kilion

Terrifying_Truth wrote: »

Yes, i wasn't really looking for total safety, i was looking for the rules so i won't be ambushed and die like a noob

I guess that is the thing about Ashes: Dying in a way that a player might consider unsavory is not only reserved for noobs

Azherae

You're 'safe' (the maximum discouragement is applied) as long as you don't upset a group larger than 2.

But if most of a node wants you out, you have to be careful, because they will just gang up, gank you, and one of them will take the deaths required.

However since it will take much longer to work off Corruption than the game this is 'based on', you probably don't have to worry about people having Red Alts 'just for' City Murder, because unlike 'Red Alts' out in the world that would have only Bounty Hunters and random strong people to worry about, this type of character loses the ability to 'do their part' in City Murder until they clear their corruption properly each time.

It's much more likely for a bunch of players to have 'City Guard' alts than 'Back Alley Assassin' alts.

Songcaller

Terrifying_Truth wrote: »

Neurath wrote: »

It doesn't make sense to have a safe haven inside walls. Walls won't exist at first and I feel a camp would be a cutthroat domain. It would be different if we had metros prebuilt.

people shouldn't be safe, maybe i picked the wrong word for the thread subject

Yeah. I was replying to the thread points by others and the thread title. People will learn how to be secure but safety is a false dichotomy.

Spif

For #1 are you asking if there are actual safe areas where attacks are turned off, or where guards would insta-gib you if you break the peace? If not, I'm curious about that anyway. It could be thematic. IE, you can't attack inside a class training area or church (Holy ground Highlander! Remember what Ramirez taught you...). Or mage-guards detonate you if you attack people at the auction house.

#4) IMO once you are fighting someone you should be purple to everyone. This will encourage people to keep it in their pants when in town (or not, and deal with third-man-in situations), since this is a town/city where the gov't probably doesn't want you fighting in the shops.

daveywavey

Neurath wrote: »

There won't be many afk activities in Ashes so I don't believe stumbling on afk players to kill will be all too common.

There are always people who just leave their character stood there while they go make a sandwich, have their 'bio break', get jiggy, etc. Others leave their character logged in just so that they don't have to wait in a login queue next time they want to play.

Songcaller

Yeah, I understand the dynamics but the devs used to say there will be anti afk systems.

daveywavey

I hope so, but hopefully not too strict. We need to be able to go make a sandwich. I like a good sandwich.

Caww

getting more coffee for the morning players amongst us...

akabear

Can`t really see how allowing pvp within city walls would work.

Someone within the city walls could be highly vulnerable as may be any or all of below

Wearing Town gear (for crafting or the like)
Not in full armor
Not in party
Not buffed
In chat mode
In tavern game mode

If pvp is permissible, then activity in town would need to be on just as much alter as out in the environment.
Surely that would then be a further diminishing enjoyment for those that pve only?

Okeydoke

akabear wrote: »

Can`t really see how allowing pvp within city walls would work.

It'll probably work similar to how it worked in other games. Vanilla Wow, Mortal Online, UO, probably other games that allowed pvp in cities. But it will have an Ashes twist to it and be even rarer due to the corruption system. A high risk affair for the attackers. It's generally not a big deal. It creates epic stories, drama, dynamic moments that break monotony. Things that used to be celebrated in gaming. And should be still.

That's if this feature even survives to launch.

akabear wrote: »

Surely that would then be a further diminishing enjoyment for those that pve only?

oof

Depraved

um you probably wont be able to attack everybody in the city...your node citizenship is your "faction". i believe you will be able to attack citizens of other nodes if they come to yours though, but time will tell.

this also makes sense, kind of like aion. you could pvp in the city, but only against someone of the other faction, and you would rarely see that anyways

Vaknar

Thank you to everyone who gave a helpful answer!

I saw the wiki cited here already, but I'll also just drop a general link. There is a ton of helpful and useful information here, gathered over the past few years!

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