Coronaids wrote: » I disagree for the most part we were as close to true “free market” DKP system as we could be
Noaani wrote: » Coronaids wrote: » We've also never had anyone with runaway DKP amounts. A large part of that is due to mutual respect between guild members, and I would happily concede that it may well be true that in a guild where there isn't that respect, DKP may not work out that well. In that regard though, I wouldn't know. I don't tend to run guilds without that level of mutual respect. I'm happy to defer to your experience in this specific regard. HA funny tell me you don’t understand classic wow without saying it There are classes in classic that legitimately do not upgrade a majority of their gear in a tier.. feral Druid… fury warriors ect how about the fact that rank 14 gear on warriors didn’t get replaced until the last phase of the game? Should that person be considered disrespectful for not spending DKP outside of a few off pieces?
Coronaids wrote: » We've also never had anyone with runaway DKP amounts. A large part of that is due to mutual respect between guild members, and I would happily concede that it may well be true that in a guild where there isn't that respect, DKP may not work out that well. In that regard though, I wouldn't know. I don't tend to run guilds without that level of mutual respect. I'm happy to defer to your experience in this specific regard.
Coronaids wrote: » HA funny tell me you don’t understand classic wow without saying it There are classes in classic that legitimately do not upgrade a majority of their gear in a tier.. feral Druid… fury warriors ect how about the fact that rank 14 gear on warriors didn’t get replaced until the last phase of the game? Should that person be considered disrespectful for not spending DKP outside of a few off pieces?
Noaani wrote: » Coronaids wrote: » HA funny tell me you don’t understand classic wow without saying it There are classes in classic that legitimately do not upgrade a majority of their gear in a tier.. feral Druid… fury warriors ect how about the fact that rank 14 gear on warriors didn’t get replaced until the last phase of the game? Should that person be considered disrespectful for not spending DKP outside of a few off pieces? To be clear, you are now saying that DKP systems don't work because WoW had shit itemization. Like, that is what it is you are saying here, right? In the same way I am no expert in dealing with DKP systems in guilds without respect, I am also not an expert in DKP systems in games with shit itemization.
Coronaids wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Coronaids wrote: » HA funny tell me you don’t understand classic wow without saying it There are classes in classic that legitimately do not upgrade a majority of their gear in a tier.. feral Druid… fury warriors ect how about the fact that rank 14 gear on warriors didn’t get replaced until the last phase of the game? Should that person be considered disrespectful for not spending DKP outside of a few off pieces? To be clear, you are now saying that DKP systems don't work because WoW had shit itemization. Like, that is what it is you are saying here, right? In the same way I am no expert in dealing with DKP systems in guilds without respect, I am also not an expert in DKP systems in games with shit itemization. You think that this game is going to release with perfect itemization? Or that unintended importance on certain items won’t persist through content tiers?
superhero6785 wrote: » There's some programs out there for DKP and loot management. They're all sort of "meh". WoW has some addons, but AoC already said they won't support addons. I started working on my own guild storage / dkp / raid management app in anticipation for Ashes. Keep putting it on the backburner in lieu of other projects, seeing as there's no release date in sight yet. Maybe once A2 is announced I'll get the motivation to finish it. But basically: Upload, manage, and search items in guild storage. - Take a picture/screenshot & upload, extract item text with Azure OCR, and List. Auction items from guild storage. Party/Lobby system. General DKP management / history. APIs for Discord Bot (or other) integration. You know, general stuff you'd want to be able to do, streamlined to make life easy, and mobile friendly.
Eathan wrote: » superhero6785 wrote: » There's some programs out there for DKP and loot management. They're all sort of "meh". WoW has some addons, but AoC already said they won't support addons. I started working on my own guild storage / dkp / raid management app in anticipation for Ashes. Keep putting it on the backburner in lieu of other projects, seeing as there's no release date in sight yet. Maybe once A2 is announced I'll get the motivation to finish it. But basically: Upload, manage, and search items in guild storage. - Take a picture/screenshot & upload, extract item text with Azure OCR, and List. Auction items from guild storage. Party/Lobby system. General DKP management / history. APIs for Discord Bot (or other) integration. You know, general stuff you'd want to be able to do, streamlined to make life easy, and mobile friendly. I believe discord bots already exist for this, I know we use a currency system through our own