Mag7spy wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Abarat wrote: » You are a goal post mover. I am done engaging you directly. You just slide to a spot where you can spout nonsense again. I'm not a goalpost mover. The problem is, you seem to think there is some competition on these forums to prove me wrong, where I am trying to have a discussion. Basically, you think there are goalposts, I do not. --- My point in this matter is that regardless of what the specifics of obtaining a freehold are, there are only three ways Intrepid can make it so guilds wont have a monopoly on them. They can make them less limited, less desired or obtained via RNG. If they are limited and desired, and if there is a set process to acquire them, organized players will complete that process first, because they are organized. That has been my point since the day of the livestream announcing these changes. It hasn't changed. It won't change. As such, even if there were goalposts, they have not moved. You just seem to have your own perception of where they are. You are 100% a goal post moving on these forums you don't care what others say but yourself. We already have examples of this where you went from trashing L2 compared to all other games. To moving the goal post back to just saying everquest. Stop lying on these forums and weaseling out every second. Take ownership when you spread false information or have bad takes. Thanks.
Noaani wrote: » Abarat wrote: » You are a goal post mover. I am done engaging you directly. You just slide to a spot where you can spout nonsense again. I'm not a goalpost mover. The problem is, you seem to think there is some competition on these forums to prove me wrong, where I am trying to have a discussion. Basically, you think there are goalposts, I do not. --- My point in this matter is that regardless of what the specifics of obtaining a freehold are, there are only three ways Intrepid can make it so guilds wont have a monopoly on them. They can make them less limited, less desired or obtained via RNG. If they are limited and desired, and if there is a set process to acquire them, organized players will complete that process first, because they are organized. That has been my point since the day of the livestream announcing these changes. It hasn't changed. It won't change. As such, even if there were goalposts, they have not moved. You just seem to have your own perception of where they are.
Abarat wrote: » You are a goal post mover. I am done engaging you directly. You just slide to a spot where you can spout nonsense again.
TheDarkSorcerer wrote: » +1 for instanced freeholds.
Noaani wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Abarat wrote: » You are a goal post mover. I am done engaging you directly. You just slide to a spot where you can spout nonsense again. I'm not a goalpost mover. The problem is, you seem to think there is some competition on these forums to prove me wrong, where I am trying to have a discussion. Basically, you think there are goalposts, I do not. --- My point in this matter is that regardless of what the specifics of obtaining a freehold are, there are only three ways Intrepid can make it so guilds wont have a monopoly on them. They can make them less limited, less desired or obtained via RNG. If they are limited and desired, and if there is a set process to acquire them, organized players will complete that process first, because they are organized. That has been my point since the day of the livestream announcing these changes. It hasn't changed. It won't change. As such, even if there were goalposts, they have not moved. You just seem to have your own perception of where they are. You are 100% a goal post moving on these forums you don't care what others say but yourself. We already have examples of this where you went from trashing L2 compared to all other games. To moving the goal post back to just saying everquest. Stop lying on these forums and weaseling out every second. Take ownership when you spread false information or have bad takes. Thanks. Again, the issue there is I am trying to have a discussion, you are trying to score "points". Discussions move and are fluid - but they dont even have goalposts. The very notion that you would think a goalpost could exist means you are not here for discussion.
Veeshan wrote: » limiting thing cause friction which causes conflict which causes the game not to stagnate
LadyZel wrote: » Veeshan wrote: » limiting thing cause friction which causes conflict which causes the game not to stagnate Things can stagnate if it's always the same guilds/people fighting over everything because there isn't enough of a variety of players in the wider community.
Veeshan wrote: » Ratzu wrote: » Noaani I hear Palia has an open beta coming up that you could check out. It is very freeholdy with there housing and everyone will be able to get one :P lol
Ratzu wrote: » Noaani I hear Palia has an open beta coming up that you could check out.
Mag7spy wrote: » If you were having a discussion you would understand your view point is subjective on the amount of pvp corruption would deter.
Phlight wrote: » Kravell wrote: » I think freeholds should be instanced because the way they talk about it makes it seem like it is very limited and ultimately game breaking. Freeholds will be very limited as intended. AoC has a risk/reward philosophy.
Kravell wrote: » I think freeholds should be instanced because the way they talk about it makes it seem like it is very limited and ultimately game breaking.
Noaani wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » If you were having a discussion you would understand your view point is subjective on the amount of pvp corruption would deter. My stance on this is based on years of discussions with people on these forums. It isn't just something I pulled out of a hat - like your opinions seem to be. There have been hundreds pf people on these forums (and the old forums) that have said corruption isn't going to stop them from PvP. Even I have said that - and you like to think I am some PvE carebear. There are only a handful of people that have ever claimed that corruption will deter them from PvP in any situation in which they would otherwise have wanted PvP. The thing is, CLEARLY anyone that would be deterred by corruption in Ashes isn't all that much of a PvP player. If they were, it wouldn't bother them - or at least wouldn't stop them. People that would be bothered by corruption simply don't have what it takes to play Ashes anyway - meaning the occurances of this would be even less frequent. If someone came to me and said "I want to play Ashes, but I am afraid of corruption", I would simply tell them "my dude, it's ok, Ashes isn't for everyone".
Noaani wrote: » The thing is, CLEARLY anyone that would be deterred by corruption in Ashes isn't all that much of a PvP player. If they were, it wouldn't bother them - or at least wouldn't stop them. People that would be bothered by corruption simply don't have what it takes to play Ashes anyway - meaning the occurances of this would be even less frequent.
Noaani wrote: » [ Interestingly, I have never said everyone should be able to get a freehold in Ashes. I have said more people than the current plan should be able to, but not everyone.
Abarat wrote: » Noaani wrote: » [ Interestingly, I have never said everyone should be able to get a freehold in Ashes. I have said more people than the current plan should be able to, but not everyone. Exactly how many more? Why will that number be better than the current? Also, what are you basing this determination on?
