Attacking someone on their freehold seems strange.

If I’m playing a mini game to create and item on my freehold, I don’t want to be attacked and have it disrupt my craft. The invulnerability only in houses but not the rest of the freehold seems odd. I’d like to be invulnerable on my entire freehold.

Based on what I understand of the corruption system, you only gain corruption when the person you are attacking dies. Someone could just repeat non-lethal, light attacks to grief my craft.

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Ludullu

Ravicus wrote: »

Perhaps there could be a "heat of battle" "you cannot flee" debuff placed on you where you could not enter safe zones while in combat.

We'd need a pretty precise definition of what the game sees as the state of combat. Is it being flagged purple or red? Then what about the greens being attacked by those people?

Is it some sort of "action stance" that you only enter when you're attacking or being attacked (with a several seconds duration for the stance)? What about mob interactions then, would we be forced to die to a mob that we couldn't kill? Or would mobs just never come close to FHs? What would be that distance then and what would Intrepid have to do to avoid "bait" abuses where people dance around that line and control the mob's aggro in a particular way?

Ayeveegaming1

NiKr wrote: »

Ravicus wrote: »

Perhaps there could be a "heat of battle" "you cannot flee" debuff placed on you where you could not enter safe zones while in combat.

We'd need a pretty precise definition of what the game sees as the state of combat. Is it being flagged purple or red? Then what about the greens being attacked by those people?

Is it some sort of "action stance" that you only enter when you're attacking or being attacked (with a several seconds duration for the stance)? What about mob interactions then, would we be forced to die to a mob that we couldn't kill? Or would mobs just never come close to FHs? What would be that distance then and what would Intrepid have to do to avoid "bait" abuses where people dance around that line and control the mob's aggro in a particular way?

Greens being attacked would not be flagged unless they fought back. Also what I suggest would be for PVP only, not npc mobs, unless a npc guard is after you for some reason, then you are on your own lol

Sengarden

PherPhur wrote: »

@Sengarden I don't think you understand the intended purpose of corruption. It, like most things in this game is designed to incentivize people to group up. The whole game is centered around multiplayer unlike any MMO that has ever been created that I'm aware of, it's a hardcore multiplayer game, an MMORPG.

Hang out with a group of people, like someone else said, if you got a freehold you probably won't be alone anyways a lot of the time. Just stick together.

With that+corruption+your own pvp skills+guards you can pretty much prevent PvP from mostly ever happening to you on your freehold aside from successful sieges I'm sure.

I don't really understand how corruption is supposed to incentivize people to group up. Grouping up reduces the chances of encountering combat in general, corruption doesn't somehow directly contribute to that. Unless you're saying that the allowance of PvP + Corruption encourages group-play when compared to fully non-PvP zones, which I agree with, but that's not really relevant. Corruption, as a separate system, simply disincentivizes PvP in general, and especially disincentivizes PvP for causes that are not worth the risk (griefing, namely, or really any combat not directly tied, as I said, to vying over resources or content).

That being said, you make a good point that you likely won't be on your freehold alone very often. If guards are actually responsive enough to make a difference, then I think they will be a good deterrent, especially if we can get some rangers with decent attack ranges who are able to continue to shoot beyond the bounds of the freehold by 20-30 feet (far enough for the attacker to not feel safe sitting just past the wall and shooting you with ranged attacks).

As for the OP's original question, no one knows how being attacked will effect crafting mini-games. Hopefully this will come up whenever they do their crafting showcase. Shouldn't be long, now. I believe they've been doing NDA testing with A1 testers on the crafting mini-games, or will be soon. Personally, I don't think the mini-games should be interrupted by anything, and you should be immune to stuns and knockbacks while performing the task. You should still be able to take damage, I think. My main point in saying so is that if we're going with a free for all, screw over whoever you want to if you want to badly enough type system, then they should have to kill you and actually take the corruption if they want to impact your productivity.

Sengarden

@PherPhur Unfortunately, I just dug this up on the Wiki. Pretty old interview, but there's nothing else on the Wiki from a more recent showcase/interview contradicting it:

https://youtu.be/mD1q3aTRcPY?t=31m05s

Apparently, NPC guards will, as of now, only be hirable preceding a siege to protect your freehold from being looted. Having other people around in the currently discussed scenario seems to be the key, but it is a bit frustrating that you're forcing people to drop what they're doing and team up to fight against bully-ish (outside of war-time) behavior that, imo, should be prevented by extending immunity to your (let's be honest, not really that large) freehold plot if you're particularly concerned about it and are willing to put a great deal of effort into acquiring the resources to make it inaccessible to those outside your permissions.

@Liniker I totally see where you're coming from with the system artificially protecting corrupted players, but currently, you're still allowed to perform that exact same behavior with your actual house. Would you have it such that any player can walk into your home and kill you in your bed, just to prevent corrupted players from escaping justice? Not being able to lock your door would be very much the same trivial removal of something a real person would obviously install, like tall fences and locked gates around a valuable property.

I understand others concerns that having many freeholds with tall walls would be a bit imposing and remove the visual sense of connectedness with the economic infrastructure in the game world. It's not the end of the world if people wander through my property now and then lol, but it would be nice if access into this (really not that large, let's be honest) plot of land that I paid for was more under my discretion. It looks like like it would take about 5-10 seconds to ride past on a mount, and judging by their planned scarcity, there will most likely not be more than one in sight at a time unless a player chooses the absolute lowest limit for proximity between their FH and another's, leaving even more natural space on the other side.

OlympusBurns

You dug deeeep my man!

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