Dygz wrote: » Hop to the back of the queue. You ain't the only one asking for just 1 server with a different ruleset...
xmix wrote: » Sathrago wrote: » I would probably want to play on this server, but at the same time would hate not having the ability to make alts in a game that has choice restrictions like this one. let me give an example of a horrible game that does this right now. Mortal Online 2. Your account gets one character, but many people I knew and know now that play the game bit the bullet to make a whole new steam account and purchase the game again just for an alt. Myself included. The problem comes with the restrictions on choice for a player. In MO2 if you create a character with x race, it can only really be good at doing certain things. A thursar (half-orc) cant be a magic user. period. You lack the mana regen and the stats in total to really be good at it in any regard. The same thing goes for the various other race choices. And all of this then is compounded by the highly restrictive "respeccing" in the game. If you level a skill and want to take those points out to spend on another skill, you actively lose those skill points forever, and they slowly bleed over in the new skill as you preform actions with the new skill to gain exp. Sorry for the info dump on a game that no one should ever play, but my point here is that because of the restrictions you get extremely degenerate gameplay from players where they end up buying the game again and subverting the whole point of no alts. And make no mistake, ashes would be quite full of such players because of its current designs and goals. At the end of the day, if theres enough wiggle room across the races, professions, and classes for players to shift around, this could work and you get some players that do the above. If not, then you absolutely get the above from anyone taking the game in a serious manner. I would only ask for 1 server. Not all of them. I think they want to start at least 10 servers, but there may be more. The whole game wouldn't be about development. and the smaller characters would also be able to fit in more easily and their development would not be disturbed by the many sub characters.
Sathrago wrote: » I would probably want to play on this server, but at the same time would hate not having the ability to make alts in a game that has choice restrictions like this one. let me give an example of a horrible game that does this right now. Mortal Online 2. Your account gets one character, but many people I knew and know now that play the game bit the bullet to make a whole new steam account and purchase the game again just for an alt. Myself included. The problem comes with the restrictions on choice for a player. In MO2 if you create a character with x race, it can only really be good at doing certain things. A thursar (half-orc) cant be a magic user. period. You lack the mana regen and the stats in total to really be good at it in any regard. The same thing goes for the various other race choices. And all of this then is compounded by the highly restrictive "respeccing" in the game. If you level a skill and want to take those points out to spend on another skill, you actively lose those skill points forever, and they slowly bleed over in the new skill as you preform actions with the new skill to gain exp. Sorry for the info dump on a game that no one should ever play, but my point here is that because of the restrictions you get extremely degenerate gameplay from players where they end up buying the game again and subverting the whole point of no alts. And make no mistake, ashes would be quite full of such players because of its current designs and goals. At the end of the day, if theres enough wiggle room across the races, professions, and classes for players to shift around, this could work and you get some players that do the above. If not, then you absolutely get the above from anyone taking the game in a serious manner.
Sathrago wrote: » Dygz wrote: » Hop to the back of the queue. You ain't the only one asking for just 1 server with a different ruleset... A 1 character server is infinitely more reasonable than a pve or pvp only server.
Sathrago wrote: » Another problem we have to be careful of is the main reason why too many servers, and different server options can be a problem. Splitting the playerbase. This is why no one wants a pve only server. We want those players on a single server (or the minimum amount of servers) so that the world is full and the economy is vibrant. And yes, a bit of that is more people to kill, but thats just the nature of a game like this and steven has already said hes not changing that.
Sathrago wrote: » xmix wrote: » Sathrago wrote: » I would probably want to play on this server, but at the same time would hate not having the ability to make alts in a game that has choice restrictions like this one. let me give an example of a horrible game that does this right now. Mortal Online 2. Your account gets one character, but many people I knew and know now that play the game bit the bullet to make a whole new steam account and purchase the game again just for an alt. Myself included. The problem comes with the restrictions on choice for a player. In MO2 if you create a character with x race, it can only really be good at doing certain things. A thursar (half-orc) cant be a magic user. period. You lack the mana regen and the stats in total to really be good at it in any regard. The same thing goes for the various other race choices. And all of this then is compounded by the highly restrictive "respeccing" in the game. If you level a skill and want to take those points out to spend on another skill, you actively lose those skill points forever, and they slowly bleed over in the new skill as you preform actions with the new skill to gain exp. Sorry for the info dump on a game that no one should ever play, but my point here is that because of the restrictions you get extremely degenerate gameplay from players where they end up buying the game again and subverting the whole point of no alts. And make no mistake, ashes would be quite full of such players because of its current designs and goals. At the end of the day, if theres enough wiggle room across the races, professions, and classes for players to shift around, this could work and you get some players that do the above. If not, then you absolutely get the above from anyone taking the game in a serious manner. I would only ask for 1 server. Not all of them. I think they want to start at least 10 servers, but there may be more. The whole game wouldn't be about development. and the smaller characters would also be able to fit in more easily and their development would not be disturbed by the many sub characters. I hear ya. Another problem we have to be careful of is the main reason why too many servers, and different server options can be a problem. Splitting the playerbase. This is why no one wants a pve only server. We want those players on a single server (or the minimum amount of servers) so that the world is full and the economy is vibrant. And yes, a bit of that is more people to kill, but thats just the nature of a game like this and steven has already said hes not changing that.
Dygz wrote: » Sathrago wrote: » Another problem we have to be careful of is the main reason why too many servers, and different server options can be a problem. Splitting the playerbase. This is why no one wants a pve only server. We want those players on a single server (or the minimum amount of servers) so that the world is full and the economy is vibrant. And yes, a bit of that is more people to kill, but thats just the nature of a game like this and steven has already said hes not changing that. The playerbase is already split.
Dygz wrote: » Also people wanting an RP server. And if you cave for one request.... that just gives expectations for others.
Depraved wrote: » i wish there was only 1 character allowed per server <;
Abarat wrote: » Depraved wrote: » i wish there was only 1 character allowed per server <; why? I am not sure i understand the reasoning?
Sathrago wrote: » Not really, no. You still have to play on the same servers as the rest of us. Huehuehue. Or dont play. whatever works for you. And if you choose not to play, you are not apart of the playerbase.
Abarat wrote: » There is a vocal minority who hates pvp that don't want to actually play the game the way Steven intends. Some are even planning on mocking the whole project by intentionally ignoring the game mechanics and being a thorn, even though they really dont like the game or its design pillars. /fixed
Abarat wrote: » How does an RP server work in other games? if you dont RP, you are kicked out? who is the decider of these types of things? I have never played on a specifically RP server. Also an RP server does not require any change in coding? does it?
Dygz wrote: » Abarat wrote: » There is a vocal minority who hates pvp that don't want to actually play the game the way Steven intends. Some are even planning on mocking the whole project by intentionally ignoring the game mechanics and being a thorn, even though they really dont like the game or its design pillars. /fixed The vocal minority are the few who will contintue to post here as representives for their Communities and playstyles. Because most of those people for whom the recent changes and reveals are dealbreakers will just ghost away without posting. That being said. Everything is subject to change and we haven't even started Alpha 2, yet.
Dygz wrote: » Sathrago wrote: » Not really, no. You still have to play on the same servers as the rest of us. Huehuehue. Or dont play. whatever works for you. And if you choose not to play, you are not apart of the playerbase. We don't have to play - exactly. So...the players you say you want playing on your servers still won't be playing on your servers.
Abarat wrote: » Dygz wrote: » Abarat wrote: » There is a vocal minority who hates pvp that don't want to actually play the game the way Steven intends. Some are even planning on mocking the whole project by intentionally ignoring the game mechanics and being a thorn, even though they really dont like the game or its design pillars. /fixed The vocal minority are the few who will contintue to post here as representives for their Communities and playstyles. Because most of those people for whom the recent changes and reveals are dealbreakers will just ghost away without posting. That being said. Everything is subject to change and we haven't even started Alpha 2, yet. but, you dont have an agenda and you are not trying to change anything. You are not an honest man, imo. <sadface>
