Login Cool Down to reduce alt abuse?

I can think of many different ways to gain advantage by having multiple characters. For example, having several characters log out at the same location, so they can quickly access that location by logging in each character. Obviously for gathering and crafting.

Would it be worth considering a cool down timer between logging out and logging in a different character on the same server? If it were, how many minutes would be adequate and fair?

I am not yet sure there is a problem, but I can imagine how it could be, like for zerging.

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Noaani

Balanz wrote: »

For example, having several characters log out at the same location, so they can quickly access that location by logging in each character. Obviously for gathering and crafting.

I fail to see how this could ever be considered an issue at all - let alone enough of an issue to place road blocks in front of people that legitimately want to play multiple characters.

Dygz

How can alts Zerg?

Depraved

you pvp die then log another charactr keep pvping and so on but meh

Korela

Valid concern. Alts are commonly used to surpass the game restrictions that devs did not think through enough.

I think that most of these abuses are fixable by account-wide* cooldowns. Like if you gather on your main -> get 30s gathering cooldown -> 5s relogin on your alt -> you gathering is still on the 25s cooldown. Same with identical skills, one-time\daily\weekly\whatever events or quests, etc.
Is there some kind of that system in Ashes or it is just another relogin-alt-abuse fiesta?

*it's better to extend it to all accounts of that player, but it is a bigger topic.

Jamation

Aren't resources server side though? Not client side? So if you login to your alt after collecting something on your main, what's your alt going to collect? There shouldn't be anything there anymore since it was already gathered. Unless I'm mistaken on that.

Noaani

Korela wrote: »

Valid concern. Alts are commonly used to surpass the game restrictions that devs did not think through enough.

I think that most of these abuses are fixable by account-wide* cooldowns. Like if you gather on your main -> get 30s gathering cooldown -> 5s relogin on your alt -> you gathering is still on the 25s cooldown. Same with identical skills, one-time\daily\weekly\whatever events or quests, etc.
Is there some kind of that system in Ashes or it is just another relogin-alt-abuse fiesta?

*it's better to extend it to all accounts of that player, but it is a bigger topic.

I don't see how that would ever apply to Ashes.

Things in Ashes are supposed to be scarce. That resource won't just be available for every character that walks along, it will be available to the first character, and then will be gone.

tautau

People enjoy alts, so alts enhance gameplay.

I don't see that the OP is presenting a problem, there is nothing that needs fixing.

CROW3

No. Alts have existed in mmos for 30 years with no zerging. We’re good.

Ludullu

No

What with these "let's limit the fuck out of people's gameplay" threads lately?

daveywavey

As an altoholic who loves playing games from as many different angles as I can, this idea sounds fricking awful.

George_Black

If weapons and gear dont drop every 5 minutes from mobs, if the drop rate is extremely low, if gathering materials and questing for schematics takes time to craft them and if crafting requires some short of workplace to be setup, if (in addition to the above) nodes suck time and resources from players, and other affilistions require equal investment, then I hardly see casual players managing to have geared alts beyond Lv20.

As for organized players, I can see them "restarting" the game with new chars, once they have achieved certain big goals for their guilds.

There wont be many alts.

HiddenDaggerInn

This is the kind of game that you really will want to focus on your main, Alt maybe fine down the road, but even then to gather better materials you will have to play a significant amount to gather the better stuff. Some will do it, but I don't see it as a HUGE problem.

Fantmx

Appreciate the idea but no. Seems to be a theoretical issue and not a real one that needs to be addressed.

Zipp_Adoudel

This game is a marathon, not a sprint. If people make 100 alts and get all the resources for a week, they will burn out. If people want to play 48 hours and not eat or sleep, they will pay the price. The leveling process with be a constant trudge in an upward direction as will node levels and profession levels as well as anything worth having. There arent going to be quick gains that are meaningful. Will you get something with the strats you are proposing, maybe. Will they amount to much in the long haul? Nope. Let people play how they want.

Caww

very poor policy choice with no clear benefit

Veeshan

Dygz wrote: »

How can alts Zerg?

it has happened in other games you log all ur alts off in an area ur faming in if somone attack you yu fight back if you die u instantly log out and in to alt who has full stats to engage injured person till you kill them

Dygz

Depraved wrote: »

you pvp die then log another charactr keep pvping and so on but meh

That is not the description of a Zerg.

Dygz

Korela wrote: »

Valid concern. Alts are commonly used to surpass the game restrictions that devs did not think through enough.

In an RPG, alts are most commonly used to play chracters with different roles.
It's also common for alts to help each other - sure.
It's not at all common for alts to be used to surpass game restrictions the devs did not think of.

Depraved

Dygz wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

you pvp die then log another charactr keep pvping and so on but meh

That is not the description of a Zerg.

thats most likely what he means tho. maybe language barrier? an 8v8 suddenly turns into 64 v 8

Raven016

Interesting how a race became now a verb or the thing that happens. Even being done by one player. In 30 years will have a different meaning for sure.

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