Login Cool Down to reduce alt abuse?

I can think of many different ways to gain advantage by having multiple characters. For example, having several characters log out at the same location, so they can quickly access that location by logging in each character. Obviously for gathering and crafting.

Would it be worth considering a cool down timer between logging out and logging in a different character on the same server? If it were, how many minutes would be adequate and fair?

I am not yet sure there is a problem, but I can imagine how it could be, like for zerging.

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Ludullu

Depraved wrote: »

thats most likely what he means tho. maybe language barrier? an 8v8 suddenly turns into 64 v 8

If those 8 people managed to level up, gear up and bring all their alts to one location purely to fuck over another group of 8 - more power to them. Fuck it, all power to them. They fucking deserve to win, cause that is DEDICATION.

"Zerging" is usually the opposite of dedication.

Raven016

Balanz wrote: »

Would it be worth considering a cool down timer between logging out and logging in a different character on the same server? If it were, how many minutes would be adequate and fair?

They could make players do a quest to activate the character slot they want to login. Probably everyone will hate that.

Sweatycup

So we are more talking multiboxing? So log out timers do nothing. And if you have multiple accounts do we try to ban vpn servers? Sounds like a huge game of cat and mouse on the latter.

Veeshan

Dygz wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

you pvp die then log another charactr keep pvping and so on but meh

That is not the description of a Zerg.

its not a zerg its zerg mentality though run in die run in die until you exhaust the opponent zerging is basicly when it gets down to it throw bodies at the issue till the issue is dealtt with

Dygz

Depraved wrote: »

thats most likely what he means tho. maybe language barrier? an 8v8 suddenly turns into 64 v 8

It's a concept barrier.
And... that is not really 64 v 8.

Dygz

Veeshan wrote: »

its not a zerg its zerg mentality though run in die run in die until you exhaust the opponent zerging is basicly when it gets down to it throw bodies at the issue till the issue is dealt with

It's not truly practical, though.
And... I don't know why that specific area, where some group of gamers has logged out multiple alts, only has a total of 16 gamers there during this battle.
This example is not really a thing.

Mag7spy

NiKr wrote: »

No

What with these "let's limit the fuck out of people's gameplay" threads lately?

Because everyone has an idea and they think it can be a good one. If all these ideas were taken we soon would have one of the worse experiences caped xp, capped progression, capped guild ability, etc.

These takes are mainly based of mmorpg people that are more new to the genre and also most likely solo players wanting to be the "main character" and win as a solo at everything beat the big content, get the epic gear, be able to beat guilds, etc.

Korela

1. Wiki: "players ... may not launch multiple game clients from the same computer" - "yes, sure! this is good thing".
2. This thread: "restrict it further so players may not abuse relogins (and disconnect state)" - "no way! this is bad idea".

Help me make the coherent system around this two things please

Mag7spy

Korela wrote: »

1. Wiki: "players ... may not launch multiple game clients from the same computer" - "yes, sure! this is good thing".
2. This thread: "restrict it further so players may not abuse relogins (and disconnect state)" - "no way! this is bad idea".

Help me make the coherent system around this two things please

Above post ^^^

Say 'I don't understand' without saying 'I don't understand.

The fact you don't comprehend multibox is wild and trying to say it is kind of the same thing about someone switching characters.

Thankfully the devs play mmorpgs and know what are the issues and won't take comments like this seriously lmao.

Ludullu

Korela wrote: »

Help me make the coherent system around this two things please

It's simply "do you have several characters available to you at the same time or not". That first point allows you to "zerg" others because you have more than one character per player. The second point does not.

Completely different mechanics.

Tyranthraxus

Sweatycup wrote: »

So we are more talking multiboxing? So log out timers do nothing. And if you have multiple accounts do we try to ban vpn servers? Sounds like a huge game of cat and mouse on the latter.

Aye - as Steven Sharif had pointed out in an early dev video: If you don't include a system in a game? The players will emulate it; @Sweatycup is absolutely right, in that this would equate to players multi-boxing. I would, under such restrictions. Also, what about disconnects?

As to the OP?

1) Since resources are harvested by a single toon, there is no benefit in having other toons parked in the *same* place, to harvest later respawns; Your single toon can harvest the resource, no alts needed. You'd be better-served by parking alts all over the CONTINENT, and alts-hopping to see what spawns are active, in each locale.

2) You'd have to know *EXACTLY* where PvP is going to happen, in order to know where to park your toons. YES: *if* you know the route a Caravan will take, then you could hypothetically park your various toons at different places, down that path. Even then, you're still guessing at the progress something like a Caravan will have made by the time they reach your parked alts, AND you don't know how far along the route your initial toon will be, before dying.

Yours truly doesn't find it likely that you'll be able to accurately predict where most owPvP will occur....

willsummon

daveywavey wrote: »

As an altoholic who loves playing games from as many different angles as I can, this idea sounds fricking awful.

I fully agree.

I look having alts to learn how each class is played so I know how to properly play with other players of each class due to having an understanding of the abilities and roles of each class.

Altoholics are a type of long term player. They will stay with the game longer than most.

Rhythmz

NiKr wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

thats most likely what he means tho. maybe language barrier? an 8v8 suddenly turns into 64 v 8

If those 8 people managed to level up, gear up and bring all their alts to one location purely to fuck over another group of 8 - more power to them. Fuck it, all power to them. They fucking deserve to win, cause that is DEDICATION.

"Zerging" is usually the opposite of dedication.

I agree. OPs concern is definitely going to be a reality. People that are capable of doing shit like this will do so and they deserve to reap the benefits. Even if you came up with a solution to this specific example which is difficult,these are the kind of nerds that will figure out another way to win.

daveywavey

Can you even imagine:

"Hey guys, we need a Healer for this dungeon"
"Yeah, I've got a Healer. Give me 15mins to re-log to my Healer......"

FFS

Myosotys

Balanz wrote: »

I can think of many different ways to gain advantage by having multiple characters. For example, having several characters log out at the same location, so they can quickly access that location by logging in each character. Obviously for gathering and crafting.

Would it be worth considering a cool down timer between logging out and logging in a different character on the same server? If it were, how many minutes would be adequate and fair?

I am not yet sure there is a problem, but I can imagine how it could be, like for zerging.

I think the fast travel limitation is enough to prevent relog with other char and tbh I will log out my other char in my farming area to relog if necessary. I hope I can keep that right.

CROW3

On the other hand, I propose we create < Altaholics Anonymous > a guild dedicated to the reduction of alt abuse as an inspired outcome of this thread.

Who's in with me? We'll have 10,000 toons and 10 members.

Raven016

Stonesss wrote: »

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Ludullu

Raven016 wrote: »

Advertising external links?

Just report and move on. I've already done so.

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