No white knights here .

I would really like to know your honest , real and LOGICAL opinion , on these two issues :

1 .- What things do you think AoC will fail in ? . and why ?

You can talk about anything , either PvP , PvE , optimization , monetization , Lore , music , art , systems , community , anything that encompasses the development of AoC.

2 .- What things do you think are the greatest potential that AoC could have if properly developed?. and why ?

You can talk about things that you have seen in the updates or things that you know about AoC or even things that you have seen in other MMORPGS/videogames and from which AoC could have a greater potential.

Regards and lots of positive vibes 😈

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Ludullu

Only black knights

1. Getting people to enjoy the pvxness of the game.
2. Nodes creating small local communities on the server

Raven016

NiKr wrote: »

1. Getting people to enjoy the pvxness of the game.

So you say Tulnars, Orcs, Dwarfs and Elves will be the majority. Right?

NiKr wrote: »

2. Nodes creating small local communities on the server

Tulnars like to mix with everyone.

Azherae

At the moment, based on the skill of the Devs, I don't expect AoC to fail in anything. I think that everything I've seen from the game that I don't like, is still basically right for the game, it just isn't for me.

Then there's a bunch of stuff that isn't explained fully, so I guess maybe those things, but one can't say 'I think Caravans won't work right' when talking about the release version. I trust that if they realize Caravans aren't working right in Alpha, they will... just make them work right.

It might have some rough parts that players avoid or disregard, but I don't know if to consider that failing, people just take that sort of thing out of the game.

But I don't see too much potential beyond the upcoming 'new standard' either. Its potential is that it is possibly going to match ALL of them at once.

Go team go.

Raven016

MybroViajero wrote: »

1 .- What things do you think AoC will fail in ?

To make me feel like I never played an MMO before.

MybroViajero wrote: »

2 .- What things do you think are the greatest potential that AoC could have if properly developed?

I've not played an MMO with seasons before.

morphwastaken

1. Random thing no one thought of, that interacts with core mechanics in a poor way, making them not function properly and cause a chain reaction breaking the game all the way down to core principles.
2. Being an actual MMO. A game to make enemies and friends.

Zokof

I understand the desire to make travel meaningful, but am a bit apprehensive on how long it will take running everywhere for groups. In the old EQ days before port stones and the plethora of druid/wiz ports, it could take you 30+ min just running (pray you had sow) to get where your group was and just then your group disbands. Or you get there and 2 group members had to drop leaving your group compromised and trying to find replacements or disband. Looking forward to seeing how good/bad travel actually is in Alpha 2.

BeOwningU

1-i think ashes will fail to kill Wow. A more logical approach to where ashes may fall short is I'm worried they may not be able to pull off augments in a meaningful way. That doesn't mean they will fail augments, but the system may not be as impactful as over expectations desire.

2- this one is obvious for me, player driven story arce and the node system. If it gets developed to it's full potential then an endless amount of story arce could keep the player base involved deeply in the game and the complexity and fragility of a well designed nodes system could be something that no one has ever seen before. New world pulled off a very basic/bland version of what ashes territory control will look like imo.

Taleof2Cities

1. Not necessarily a bad thing, but my concern is that Ashes may not attract certain player sub-sets … due to it being a “passion project”.

An example would be regular content updates for PvP Arenas and PvE raiding.

2. With potentially 64 different classes, Ashes could have the most variety in character builds of any MMO by a country mile … IF combat is properly balanced.

I know that the devs have said secondary archetypes merely add “flavor” at this point in the game’s development.

But, the potential is certainly there.

Ruerik

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

1. Not necessarily a bad thing, but my concern is that Ashes may not attract certain player sub-sets … due to it being a “passion project”.

An example would be regular content updates for PvP Arenas and PvE raiding.

2. With potentially 64 different classes, Ashes could have the most variety in character builds of any MMO by a country mile … IF combat is properly balanced.

I know that the devs have said secondary archetypes merely add “flavor” at this point in the game’s development.

But, the potential is certainly there.

How cool would it be if military nodes could build an arena for 2v2s, 4v4s, or whatever other format was wanted.

Fantmx

1. I am still not sure how easily Intrepid will be able to combine the PvE and PvP crowds to form the PvX vision. The reason I focus on this is I think it is 100% required to have the dynamics of the world work.

2. The player stories that will come from a successful game will be unlike any others you find in mmorpgs except for Eve.

Solvryn

MybroViajero wrote: »

I would really like to know your honest , real and LOGICAL opinion , on these two issues :

1 .- What things do you think AoC will fail in ? . and why ?

People will either like Ashes or they won't, I do not think Intrepid will develop a poor game.

MybroViajero wrote: »

2 .- What things do you think are the greatest potential that AoC could have if properly developed?. and why ?

Community, Combat, Conflict, Cohesion.

A PvXers dream.

George_Black

1. I think AoC might fail with classes and weapons.

Not sure how many viable classes we will get from the promised variety of 64, with satisfying animations for people to find the class identity they need.
Not sure that weapons, the literal agents of action should be treated as passive procs. I hope they have embeded weapon requirements in the archetypes' abilities.

2. Open world pvp without pay to win is all that Ashes needs to shine, and I think the raw material scarcity will fuel exploration and guild conflict gameplay.

Jamation

MybroViajero wrote: »

1 .- What things do you think AoC will fail in ? . and why ?

I think they're may be a struggle to get and maintain new players on developed servers. I also worry about server balance and queue times with some of the more popular servers becoming too overcrowded and other servers feeling dead. Depending on when a person joins the game I worry that they may feel far behind or out of luck in certain aspects of the game, especially if servers maintain the same people of power, and they may not stick with the game leaving gaps in players of a certain level causing some....discomfort(?) for new/developing players.

I also worry about stagnation on that point, with powerful guilds settling into their positions of power with the only real battles happening on smaller nodes. I hope there is some real competition and fights, but I'm worried the big names will hunker down and everything will just stay the same. I don't know if there is enough reason/motivation to put 500+ people on your enemy list for messing with their home and becoming a PVP target in the overworld. I feel like people are just going to try to win the mayorship/node control for whatever nodes are already developed instead of trying to remove and rebuild another one. I'm hoping castles will fill any void left from the nodes, but I don't know at this point.

MybroViajero wrote: »

2 .- What things do you think are the greatest potential that AoC could have if properly developed?. and why ?

I'm really looking forward to the prospect of true exploration. The idea that if you see it you can actually reach it is something I thought was so cool.

I'm also mildly hopeful about the gathering/crafting portion as it seems like it could put players down niche paths (which I think is neat). I just hope the process to perform the tasks aren't standard and boring.

Veeshan

the stock market there wanting to add haha

Adelissa

MybroViajero wrote: »

I would really like to know your honest , real and LOGICAL opinion , on these two issues :

1 .- What things do you think AoC will fail in ? . and why ?

I'm worried about travel. I understand travel being meaningful but if it comes down to you have to walk for 2 hours to get to a high competition area then that's going to hurt the game, hell people complained about 10 minute travel times in new world.

MybroViajero wrote: »

2 .- What things do you think are the greatest potential that AoC could have if properly developed?. and why ?

I think that ashes has the best chance at realizing all of their goals and adjusting their goals to match roadblocks that come along the way, Steven is pretty good at giving answers to hard questions or letting us know he'll provide us one when he gets detail, that shows a lot of competence.

I think the most potential the game has is that it's a PvX game that involves EVERYONE in the world to function and not just a specific group. The core of the game relies on this functionality, we don't quite fully understand what that will look like, but from what we've heard so far, it sounds like they're on track with this goal, that being said, I'm looking forward to actually seeing it and not just hearing about it.

Noaani

MybroViajero wrote: »

1 .- What things do you think AoC will fail in ? . and why ?

2 .- What things do you think are the greatest potential that AoC could have if properly developed?. and why ?

Ashes will fail at being considered anything other than a PvP game.

The reason for this is because Ashes is just another PvP game.

That doesn't mean the game will fail, it just means that it will be percieved as a PvP game, despite Steven not wanting that perception.

In terms of what will bring in the most players to Ashes if properly developed, I would also say PvP. This is why the above failing isn't going to make the game as a whole fail . There absolutely are many people out there that want a solid PvP MMORPG - at least for a while.

If Ashes PvP is properly developed, it will bring in every PvP MMORPG player around for at least a few months.

daveywavey

1 .- What things do you think AoC will fail in ? . and why ?
I do worry a little that as it tries to settle further into its niche that it may not attract enough playerbase to fill the worlds. But, that's probably just me hoping to see the game succeed rather than an actual issue.

2 .- What things do you think are the greatest potential that AoC could have if properly developed?. and why ?
I think if they put as much effort into their artisan system as they have into everything else, that this could be a flagship system for them as much as their node system.

Sunboy

1. Botting. To little resources and to few checks in place.

2. A globe for a world not a flat surface.

Shabooey

1. Classes. Worried with the amount they have they will struggle to balance them or they won't be as deep and meaningful as we are hoping they will be.

2. Hopefully changing MMOs questing with dynamic changing quests. Also demonstrating why PvX is the way forward for MMOs.

Nerror

1. Hacks, exploits, bots, RMT not being handled well or quickly enough. To be fair, I don't think this will definitely happen, but it is the most likely area, IMO, that they will have failures in.

2. I'll join others and say the artisan system. They have to do nodes well, because that's the entire core of the game, and combat has to not suck, but after nodes and combat, a really deep and well thought-out artisan system will bring the game to the next level.

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