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Mythander
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The only system I’ve seen hold up for Roleplay with very few issues is Neverwinter Nights persistent worlds like Ravenloft Potm. Their Roleplay is swiftly enforced. Breaks in character are warned about at first but then a DM will swiftly rectify the situation. I’ve never seen another game where it worked so well.
So a system of community guides that can watch players and respond to reports quickly if someone comes in disrupting Roleplay would be good.
Also skills and spells that have little to do with combat but are fun to play with. Like flourishes with weapons. Or spells to make lighting play about your hands or body for show. Stuff like that.
So a system of community guides that can watch players and respond to reports quickly if someone comes in disrupting Roleplay would be good.
Also skills and spells that have little to do with combat but are fun to play with. Like flourishes with weapons. Or spells to make lighting play about your hands or body for show. Stuff like that.
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What would be considered "disrupting roleplay"?
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/55762/dev-discussion-53-roleplaying/p1
Everyone is roleplaying just by playing this game. It is fantasy roleplay. As for "waste of resources", catching people that disrupt play for others is never a waste of time.
Anyway! I loved the Neverwinter Persistent Worlds. Some of the best roleplay i've seen to date. Now, there is some very good GTA and RedDead roleplay going on too now, but far too much (and you can't tell when you will be subjected to it) is wish fulfillment without consequences, so i have not found a group i can stick with yet.
IF you are RPing in open world, and someone comes by to run around your group a lot spamming chat or being a nuissance to break your immersion, call a GM, I dont think any specific or automated system is needed or a good idea.
random PvP attacks in open world against RPers should already be addressed by corruption.
or just block them so you dont see their chat?
GMs will exist for the trolls
its a free world. people shouldnt be punished for running around and doing emotes. just find a corner and roleplay instead of trying to force others to play how you want (outside of a game mechanic).
what if they are roleplaying as happy hyper rabbits hopping around? they should be able to roleplay without a gm punishing them because another player doesn't want that happening ;3
You and your friends go to a corner of the world because thats where your RP story quest is taking you. And you are chatting IC and managing whatever parts of your player made content you want.
Some other guy comes by, sees your group, and just starts emoting randomly ro RP himself as a hyper rabbit. Pretty clear harassment. Intrepid has already shown a lot of interest in having a good RP community already, I would fully expect a GM report to be swiftly dealt with in any harassment situation.
Doesnt have anything about forcing other people to play the way I want. There is zero expectation other players that happen to travel by have to interact with us in IC, but its common courtesy to not interfere if you dont have to go there for some quest or farm or whatever other reason.
Let folks do what they want. This has to do with intentional disruption of gameplay, pretty easy to see the distinction here.
Those guys want to play their RP session without being harassed.
Here is the real world equivalent example to exactly what you are describing.
A group of friends go to their local comic shop where table top games are usually held every tuesday. They start a game and are hours into it.
Some other person shows up, to just start harassing them.
Do you, expect that to be ok? Its not, the asshole gets kicked out of the shop for disruption.
Back to in game RP.
If folks are playing some RP out, and you show up expecting to be let in on the spot in the middle of the session, the DM is not likely to let you in on the spot if its a campaign thats been planned out for some time.
If you then start bein an asshole, expect a GM to show up, all I'm sayin. Good luck
Someoen asked you to leave them alone and you said nahhh, im gonna harass this person instead.
If you wanna flag up on some rpers go for it, see how far it gets you.
Dont harass em with chat and emotes is my point.
IF the RP group initiates a flag on the person interrupting their campaign, they get corruption, repeat until they are red and its easy to see where it goes from here.
This is why, a simple polite request ought to be enough, if not, submit a harassment ticket, because there is no other way to move forward.
I'm all for the player being a nuissance flagging up and attacking, but beyond that, to me that person is just trying to bait a group of players into going red.
As far as harassment already being on the minds of Intrepid for such a thing.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Definition:Griefing
"Now the question is, when risk becomes something that doesn't stop other players from impacting your gameplay in a negative and harassing and repetitive manner. The motivation to do that action is less about their personal advancement and more about impacting your gameplay, because when they elicit the response of anger or rage from the player, they feel a sense of accomplishment. That in my opinion is what griefing is. It is outside of the expectation of the gameplay behavior that is communicated in the design philosophy."
[1] – Steven Sharif"
that isnt harassment. im allowed to spam my emotes.
what if you kill one of the mobs im farming and i hit you. then you ask me to leave you alone. should i not kill you because you asked? should i be punished by a GM if i keep attacking you or even if i kill you simply because you asked me not to kill you in an open world pvp game?
its the same when it comes to rp. if you had your own private server then yeah sure, you make your own rules, but unfortunately (for you) you dont.
what if i want to rp as a bandit? i see your group and i kill them and take your stuff. im not going to not kill you because you asked me not to since you are rping with your group.
the meta rules are not more important than the actual rules.
IN the words of the great internet meme, fuck around and find out is all I have left to say here.
Do we get a White Chair?
I think the point being made is that you can ask someone to go away, but they can always say no.
You can say they are being an asshole if you like, but being an asshole isn't against the ToS.
Since there doesnt seem to be much understanding about the impact here:
If you havent done any RP in games in the past, you may not understand just how much small things like this can destroy immersion for the RPers, and ruin weeks of campaign development and effort for them, just because you want to be a jerk. It is a significant time investment for them, and very little effort for you to do that, for no personal gain other than laughs for you. (I could quote steven again here, but you can just click the wiki link from my post above to see his thoughts, beyond the PvP being a part of every piece of gameplay, steven himself being an RPer is one of the big draws for me to support this game, I would not be suprised to learn in the future if Intrepid leans very sympathetically towards RPers, considering all the tools being developed for them already such as character sheets)
In the situation thats being proposed of 'asshole' gameplay (not saying you will do this specifically, but its your proposal so I am just writing out the hypothetical here):
You be an asshole to someone, they ask you to stop, You continue, they block you so they dont see the chat. You continue just following them, being a nuisance, spamming emotes in their face and so on. Don't be surprised when you suddenly cant log in anymore my friend.
This is straight up griefing, and the RPers cant do anything about it beyond block. If they tried to flag up on you gives them corruption, which also will ruin their gameplay session. Do you truly think this sort of behavior will be accepted? Part of our sub fee every month goes towards caretaking of the game, which includes active in game GMs (from the wiki also, if you didnt want to google it)
If your going to interrupt their campaign night, at least actually engage in pvp so they can do something about you.