Does anyone else wanna just be a nobody?

Just curious, is anyone else excited to just be a nobody in this game? Like you're not the champion, the savior, the godkinghero... is anyone else just excited to be something as mundane as a guard... or a mercenary.... or a farmer.... etc like you don't even have to be someone who goes out and kills monsters to contribute to the success of whatever territory you commit to.

That's just amazing to me. Looking forward to being a nameless guard. Specifically a py'rai guard in a py'rai node. Where I'll actually be able to be a guard who doesn't just stand there all day every day (maybe some days) but who will actually see action by just being there and being available. No statues made in my honor, no main characters pulling me into their drama, just a nameless guard. Love it.

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Raven016

Dygz wrote: »

Raven016 wrote: »

Some poor people are being pushed through... And you know those who become corrupted through pvp they actually escaped from prison and sneaked through the portal to escape authorities.

Sanctus does not have Corruption.
Escaping from prison does not mean a person cannot also be a hero.

I wouldn't like to meet such potential heroes during night on dark streets... Desire to kill others to take their stuff existed on both sides of the gate. Corruption could potentially be good in a future expansion if the Others win some battles against the Seven. Fewer players might play at that time.

Enigmatic Sage

Sometimes the hero you get isn't always the hero you wanted or needed.

HazardNumberSeven

I look forward to just being another person inhabiting this world.

Gonzzza

Of course! A simple trader, a breadwinner, a researcher of the world. Who just lives in Verra, and does not rush to power, to the best stuff, to the top of the PvP rating, in many ways gets more pleasure from the game than people, who ignore the living component of the world for the sake of level numbers, shining armor, first place in the achievement table.

Dygz

Dryadez wrote: »

You don't know what my character was doing before the portal and you don't know my intentions after stepping through the portal. That's the beauty of this game, you can't call me a hero if my character is a pirate, jumping peaceful players in the ocean to steal their cargo. This game gives us options

Doesn't really matter. Walking through the portal is considered to be a heroic act - by the game lore.
The people who travel to Verra are considered to be heroes, rather than nobodies...
Might be able to be a nobody if you are a Tulnar who stays in the Underrealm....

Dygz

Raven016 wrote: »

I wouldn't like to meet such potential heroes during night on dark streets... Desire to kill others to take their stuff existed on both sides of the gate. Corruption could potentially be good in a future expansion if the Others win some battles against the Seven. Fewer players might play at that time.

Yep. Same could be said about many real life heroes committing one heroic act - and being someone other than a nobody does not inherently mean that individual hero is a saint who will never commit a heinous act.

Percimes

Nerror wrote: »

Yeah playing as a normal nobody suits me fine. I am a hero and saviour in real life. I want to play something different in the game. That's also why I pretty much never play humans in games if I have a choice.

Reminded me of this

Raven016

Nobody will want to be a mayor and fly a dragon?
Or at least own a freehold?

Depraved

Dygz wrote: »

Dryadez wrote: »

You don't know what my character was doing before the portal and you don't know my intentions after stepping through the portal. That's the beauty of this game, you can't call me a hero if my character is a pirate, jumping peaceful players in the ocean to steal their cargo. This game gives us options

Doesn't really matter. Walking through the portal is considered to be a heroic act - by the game lore.
The people who travel to Verra are considered to be heroes, rather than nobodies...
Might be able to be a nobody if you are a Tulnar who stays in the Underrealm....

poor tulnars xDDD

Dryadez

Raven016 wrote: »

Nobody will want to be a mayor and fly a dragon?
Or at least own a freehold?

I have 0 desire to be a mayor, and even less to fly. I don't particularly like the idea of flying in these kinds of games. I personally feel it takes away from alot of the ground work that was put into it and just kind of is like activating god mode travel services.

Dryadez

Dygz wrote: »

Dryadez wrote: »

You don't know what my character was doing before the portal and you don't know my intentions after stepping through the portal. That's the beauty of this game, you can't call me a hero if my character is a pirate, jumping peaceful players in the ocean to steal their cargo. This game gives us options

Doesn't really matter. Walking through the portal is considered to be a heroic act - by the game lore.
The people who travel to Verra are considered to be heroes, rather than nobodies...
Might be able to be a nobody if you are a Tulnar who stays in the Underrealm....

Oh no good sir. I am just a nobody who walked through the portal to be a simple contributor to a py'rai village.
A hero, subjective. But a nameless guard to most.

Some came under the guise of being a self-less warrior ready to retake land in the name of their kin but see opportunity in these new untamed lands of old and become anything but heroes.Pirates, murderers and thieves. Power hungry warlords. The devs have made pretty clear the idea is to carve what and who you want to be. Maybe coming through the portals is a brave act to be sure but a heroic one? Depends on your intent.

One heroic act does not make a hero either way but if that's how you personally want to view yourself and others then have at it. I won't be greeted by everything i bump into as a hero or champion, unlike other games where your linear story leads you to become some sort of heroic champion.

Dygz

Walking through a Portal to be a "simple" contributor to a Py'Rai Village is a heroic act.
Nameless guard is unlikely. Expect people to have kept track of the names of those chose to brave Corruption and the other magical threats of Verra.
If you just wanted to be a simple nobody... you would have stayed on Sanctus, where life is objectively more simple than life on Verra.

By the lore, you will be considered a hero just for stepping through the portal.
If you want to view yourself as a nobody...
But... that's kinda like viewing yourself as an atheist on a world where gods actively engage in world events.

Nerror

Dygz wrote: »

By the lore, you will be considered a hero just for stepping through the portal.

If we want to go all RP about this, sure, "considered" by others maybe, on a surface level, but that is quite different from what the motive might be. I could be walking through the portal with the intent to steal and become powerful for entirely selfish reasons, and just pay lip service to the whole hero thing. People can decide to be nobodies or villains as they see fit. Other people in that world don't define that, nor does game lore.

It's like that weird hero worship/mythology some countries have towards their veterans/soldiers. Going to war or just serving in the military doesn't automatically make anyone a hero in RL either, in and of itself. Most are just a regular bunch of people, doing regular people things with regular people motives. Some might do heroic things, and some will do horrible war crimes, and many will just exist and not accomplice much individually other than being a cog in the wheel.

Dygz

A hero is not the same thing as a saint. And... in this case, we're talking about "nobodies". People who travel through the Portal from Sanctus to Verra are not considered to be "nobodies" by the game lore.
Again... you could also decide your character is an athiest where gods actively roam and influence the world.

Raven016

Dygz wrote: »

Everyone is a hero just by walking through the portal.
If you really wanted to be a nobody, you would have stayed on Sanctus.

These settlers walked through the portal too and they do not seem exactly heroes.
https://youtu.be/db-S7QfjZWo?t=447

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Nerror

Yeah, this is likely one of those dicussions where people have widely different interpretations of the words "nobody" and "hero", thus making it all pointless until a set of definitions can be agreed upon. And frankly I don't care enough

As I see it, the hero thing is just the lie the leaders on Sanctus are trying to sell to people to get them to sign up and go through the portal.

Dryadez

Dygz wrote: »

Walking through a Portal to be a "simple" contributor to a Py'Rai Village is a heroic act.
Nameless guard is unlikely. Expect people to have kept track of the names of those chose to brave Corruption and the other magical threats of Verra.
If you just wanted to be a simple nobody... you would have stayed on Sanctus, where life is objectively more simple than life on Verra.

By the lore, you will be considered a hero just for stepping through the portal.
If you want to view yourself as a nobody...
But... that's kinda like viewing yourself as an atheist on a world where gods actively engage in world events.

I mean do we even know what's going on in Sanctus and why we are having this mass exodus to begin with? But I don't think theres any official lore saying anyone is a Hero for existing in Verra, if you wanna think were all Heroes have at it my friend. Your story is yours and your views are yours. This is a strange hill to fight on.

Dryadez

Nerror wrote: »

Yeah, this is likely one of those dicussions where people have widely different interpretations of the words "nobody" and "hero", thus making it all pointless until a set of definitions can be agreed upon. And frankly I don't care enough

As I see it, the hero thing is just the lie the leaders on Sanctus are trying to sell to people to get them to sign up and go through the portal.

That's the best part of games like this, where you don't just follow a guide start to finish and boom the game is done, enjoy your nice gear and mounts. Roleplay is entirely open to interpretation and leaves room for imagination. Even if my personal roleplay lacks alot of it because I quite frankly do and want to be and will be a nameless guard

Dripyula

That reminds me of the good old times when WoW started in 2004 and you were just a civilian who enlisted for your nation/race/tribe.
To set out and find ally's or help to bolster your own people's standing in the world.
You were not a "Champion" like today, you walked on foot until you could afford a meagre +60% walkingspeed mount and you were given the tasks of a mere adventurer.
Cause you were one.
Now you are already a Legend who (in the Lore) fought the mightest Dragons, the Lichking, the burning Legion and safed Azeroth 1000 times over. And it shows in how NPC's adress you.

Totally looking forward to going back to the roots and rise up whole nodes with actions that actually matter to shape the world around me, with the frenemies we make along the way.

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