Do we need a copper currency?

Something that I've been wondering for a while is if we really need the three tiers of the primary currency that we have seen so far in AoC. It appears that Ashes of Creation has a system similar to World of Warcraft where 100 copper is equal to 1 silver, and 100 silver is equal to 1 gold. If we have these three currencies then I should expect to see items with values of a silver or less, otherwise copper serves no real purpose. Based on what I've seen so far, even low level players will be acquiring silver and gold as rewards far more than simple copper.

I feel that if players are always going have enough money in their bags to ignore the existence of copper, then keeping it in the game just becomes information bloat. Lets look at it with USD. Would having a coin that is 1/100 of a penny make your life any easier? People already complain about having to deal with change now that almost everything costs more than a dollar. Adding currency that is even smaller would only serve to make things more complicated.

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Aszkalon

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Ludullu

Aszkalon wrote: »

I have a tiny Condition with my Eyes - that will result in a LOT of Pain, if i read huge Textwalls. Making empty Lines between full Lines, helps my Eyes. It also helps my Brain's Sense of Orientation - because i have a chronical Concentration Disorder since my Birth.

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CROW3

I think denominations can follow sinks. WoW has copper, but I have 6M gold making that currency almost irrelevant. Copper is not even a rounding error. BDO is even worse, I have something like 80B silver and I haven't even played in two years.

So... figuring out where gold is spent seems more important than determining nickels and dimes.

daveywavey

I dunno, part of me would like to see them veer away from the standard platinum/gold/silver/copper and maybe make something new of their own. There must be some economics experts at Intrepid that have always dreamed of creating their own system.

Enigmatic Sage

@CROW3 agreed. the copper denomination ends up being completely useless. Can be replaced with a two coin denomination system like the dollar and cents system, whole numbers and decimal places.

@daveywavey same. I get we'll have several forms of currency based on personal and node so i imagine the currency will have some sort of figure head imprinted on it representing the node vs commoner currency. Don't need an economics expert for that lol.

Jhoren

I suggest the following:

1 gold is called 1 sovereign
1 sovereign = 7 crownlets
1 crownlet = 13 farthings

I like prime numbers

Enigmatic Sage

Jhoren wrote: »

I suggest the following:

1 gold is called 1 sovereign
1 sovereign = 7 crownlets
1 crownlet = 13 farthings

I like prime numbers

cheeky

Enigmatic Sage

@Vaknar to your comment about your conversation you had. Where I live, we don't use pennies anymore for physical currency the copper is worth more than the penny now. There's a rounding rule unless paying electronically with debit/credit.

Technically in ancient times, things were paid to relatively whole values until currency got out of control and became representations of their actual resource. The coins were the resource vs a representation of the countries national reserve. Then they tried creating coins for 10th's(dimes) 20th's(nickels) and even 100th's (pennies). Evolution of currency.

Just fractions of a whole numerical value. Dollars vs Cents, Whole number vs decimal places.

but here's an example of ancient roman currency

AnimusRex

Jhoren wrote: »

I suggest the following:

1 gold is called 1 sovereign
1 sovereign = 7 crownlets
1 crownlet = 13 farthings

I like prime numbers

Nah, too British. And that empire shat itself a long time ago.
Besides, would be weird names to have evolved in a world without a sovereign or kingdoms.

A more pressing explanation is needed for how so many different races /locations are going to have the same currency. That's not usually the case, as our own planet demonstrates.

daveywavey

AnimusRex wrote: »

Jhoren wrote: »

I suggest the following:

1 gold is called 1 sovereign
1 sovereign = 7 crownlets
1 crownlet = 13 farthings

I like prime numbers

Nah, too British. And that empire shat itself a long time ago.
Besides, would be weird names to have evolved in a world without a sovereign or kingdoms.

A more pressing explanation is needed for how so many different races /locations are going to have the same currency. That's not usually the case, as our own planet demonstrates.

In a game-world, you generally need an overarching currency system to tie everything together for ease, and so that you don't only appeal to experienced economists who like playing the spreadsheet-game. That doesn't matter so much in the real world.

AnimusRex

daveywavey wrote: »

In a game-world, you generally need an overarching currency system to tie everything together for ease, and so that you don't only appeal to experienced economists who like playing the spreadsheet-game. That doesn't matter so much in the real world.

I get that, and its a fantasy setting. Different currencies with exchange rates would complicate things. But you still have to suspend disbelief that 9 races mint the same coins or that there isn't a central authority doing so that they all are governed by.

I'm not going to lose sleep over it. It's just another smallish matter that when you examine it seems counterintuitive, even for the setting.

AldinCole

Unless coins have weight, there is no game play reason to have different coins of different values. Different coins can help with immersion, but in terms of things that help with immersion it is WAY far down the list compared reputation or NPC reactivity. In the end, I couldn't care less because 1 [lowest value coin] is = to 1 currency unit regardless of whether we have copper, silver, and gold; just gold; or 'crowns' or some other non-material name.

tautau

@AnimusRex We don't have to pretend that all the different races and nodes minted the same coins, since they refer to them as types of metal. 1 ounce of gold, regardless if it has the face of an orc or an elf on it, is worth an ounce of gold. Same with silver and copper...it is the value of the underlying metal that is traded, not the image stamped on the metal.

In this the devs are smart, not to call the coins by names, but rather by their base metal.

Enigmatic Sage

@tautau it just makes sense to have it as a numerical value opposed to physical coins representing fractions lol.

That would just irritate people in a video game having coins for halves, quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies.

Thus concluding that a dual denomination system is ideal. Bronze/copper is pointless as it's just another fraction of a fraction lol. A tri-denomination system is pointless other than "immersion".

Our currency bar/menu is going to be filled with various things from common currency, bound currencies such as religion and node. I'd rather have something unique for each coin representation visually.

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