Pre-Order Bundle Cosmetics Question

What are the odds of converting early access bundle cosmetics to embers?

For example I jumped on the last train to alpha and the bloody bone cosmetics, as impressive as they are, aren't my vibe. Very likely they'll gather the dust of ages never to be touched. If I was able to cash them in as a one time deal to spend on other cosmetics though, I'd get that much more mileage out of the bundle.

I understand this is pretty low hanging fruit and as a non-dev I don't know how much effort this ask actually involves, but thought it'd be worth asking.

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Virtek

Hydromance wrote: »

What are the odds of converting early access bundle cosmetics to embers?

For example I jumped on the last train to alpha and the bloody bone cosmetics, as impressive as they are, aren't my vibe. Very likely they'll gather the dust of ages never to be touched. If I was able to cash them in as a one time deal to spend on other cosmetics though, I'd get that much more mileage out of the bundle.

I understand this is pretty low hanging fruit and as a non-dev I don't know how much effort this ask actually involves, but thought it'd be worth asking.

This would be a nice feature, for sure!

Talking about trading current cosmetics with old or simply buying old cosmetics you missed would definitely trigger the explanation: "Intrepid won't want to go back on their 'exclusive monthly cosmetics never to be available again' statements," but this wouldn't really contradict that. It would simply allow you to sell the cosmetics back to the shop so you can buy future cosmetics.

In a way, you would be kinda giving up your fancy exclusive purchase.

Enigmatic Sage

Virtek wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Referral program is kind of scummy. No point helping someone else play for free when you have to pay full price

I'd have to hard disagree on this point though. Nothing scummy about giving someone a bit of bonus for bringing you into a game you like. You don't even have to pay full price if you invite a friend or three.
It's like the "Friend Codes" in other games, except you get to choose how the bonus is spent. When compared with "you both get this one specific mount/pet/gadget that everyone else in the world gets," I think it's far superior.

and I hard disagree and say it is scummy lol. It's great for the person who publicly drop their referral code so they dont have to pay for the game and essentially get free cosmetics as the currency is amalgamated over time.

It even displays that the USD $15 monthly sub fee could just essentially be lower considering time and time again the cosmetics and monthly sub being announced as how the game is funded. lol. Contradictive marketing fomo tactics.

Virtek

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

It even displays that the USD $15 monthly sub fee could just essentially be lower

No clue what you're referring to with this statement here. Can you explain a bit? Where does it display what?

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

. Contradictive marketing fomo tactics.

Insert obligatory "I do not think that word means what you think it means" movie quote.

Fair enough that we're all allowed to have an opinion, but it's the facts that you have incorrect. IF I'm interpreting what you mean correctly.

You pay $15 per month with no referrals. Game earns $15.
You pay $12.75 with one referral. Referral pays $15. Game earns $27.75.
You pay $0 with 7 referrals. Referrals pay $15 each. Game earns $105.

Contradiction where? FOMO where? What are you "missing out" on? What's the fear driver?
You're simply bringing in people to play the game, making the community bigger, and continuing to ensure the game you're playing has life.

Maybe I just don't grasp what you're referring to, so please correct me if I missed it.

Enigmatic Sage

Virtek wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

It even displays that the USD $15 monthly sub fee could just essentially be lower

No clue what you're referring to with this statement here. Can you explain a bit? Where does it display what?

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

. Contradictive marketing fomo tactics.

Insert obligatory "I do not think that word means what you think it means" movie quote.

Fair enough that we're all allowed to have an opinion, but it's the facts that you have incorrect. IF I'm interpreting what you mean correctly.

You pay $15 per month with no referrals. Game earns $15.
You pay $12.75 with one referral. Referral pays $15. Game earns $27.75.
You pay $0 with 7 referrals. Referrals pay $15 each. Game earns $105.

Contradiction where? FOMO where? What are you "missing out" on? What's the fear driver?
You're simply bringing in people to play the game, making the community bigger, and continuing to ensure the game you're playing has life.

Maybe I just don't grasp what you're referring to, so please correct me if I missed it.

it's pretty straight forward. If they can afford to hypothetically have that many not paying a monthly subscription because others have to pay full price, then the monthly subscription could just be cheaper for everyone overall instead. Even with the amalgamated intrepid bucks bonus for cosmetics through the in-game shop through this referral program, seems like they can afford to give away free cosmetics too which brings up the question why not just have a cheaper monthly subscription for everyone with a few cosmetic sales either one free or discounted through the referrals. Seems like a backwards marketing to encourage more FOMO sales. Unless further details are specified, there could hypothetically be a big loop hole in this with "genuine" referrals. It doesn't add up ethically and comes off as manipulative for consumerism.

Grimshaw

To confirm the current (I agree with the OP, not my style) pack is available for purchase till the 17th of January yeah? I didn't miss-hear the December Developer Update did I?

Enigmatic Sage

Grimshaw wrote: »

To confirm the current (I agree with the OP, not my style) pack is available for purchase till the 17th of January yeah? I didn't miss-hear the monthly update did I?

Sounds Correct. Obvious 90 refund policy and alpha 2 doesn't start until Q3.

chibibree

Grimshaw wrote: »

To confirm the current (I agree with the OP, not my style) pack is available for purchase till the 17th of January yeah? I didn't miss-hear the December Developer Update did I?

Yes, this is correct ^-^

Vaknar

We haven't announced any plans to give users the ability to turn their pre-order package cosmetics into Embers.

There will be other cosmetic items available for purchase in the future

There will also be many different in-game items you can acquire!

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