Leveling Speed

Wiki says the following:

On release the developers anticipate max level should be attainable in approximately 45 days if playing 4-6 hours per day.

This is equal to ~225 hours to reach level 50. What is your opinion about it? Would you like it to be faster or slower?

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SkylarckTheBotanist

As most have said above, slower

Dygz

I mean... new expansions is kind of an archaic concept.
Ashes is designed to provide significant new content as the Nodes rise and fall and as different races control Nodes and as different Social Orgs or Religions gain prominence.
In addition to new content dropped every 3 or 4 months.

Also...max Adventurer Level is not necessarily more important than Node progression.

Nerror

Dygz wrote: »

Ashes doesn't really have "end-gamey" things.
You do the same stuff at Level 1 that you do at Level 50.

No. You don't do world bosses, sieges, caravan pvp, node wars, major naval content, high end crafting and gathering at level 1.

Leonerdo

If it's backloaded, like the last 10 levels take 100 hours, then yeah it's fine. I just don't want leveling to be so slow that I'm stuck with baby-mode gameplay (5 skills and a lot of downtime) for hundreds of hours.

Dygz

Nerror wrote: »

No. You don't do world bosses, sieges, caravan pvp, node wars, major naval content, high end crafting and gathering at level 1.

In Ashes, people do.
I dunno what you think "high end" is during points of time when there are no "high end" Nodes.
Ashes is Open World. There is nothing gating people from participating in those activities at Level 1.

Cadac

You start freeholds at 50, so there is that. Some things are Node level gated it like harbors for naval access at lvl3 if the Node can have one.

Dygz

Owning a Freehold starts at 50, sure.
There's stuff Level 1 characters can do on a Freehold.

Saabynator

AnimusRex wrote: »

Slower.

I think a lot of players are seeing Ashes as the game that will restore their faith in well... games. And so intend to maximise it's value and enjoy every moment. And the longer that takes, the better.

Without being too dramatic.... If AoC fails as an MMORPG, I think we can write off the MMORPG genre, more or less. It will jump to hasty developed games, lack of content - all that bad shit.
But! If AoC becomes a success, we can hope that other developers wise up and see that developing a good game, is a better business model. One can hope!

Normally I am pretty sceptical. But Steven pretty much convinced me, that they were developing a good product, back when you could buy the packs. This is the first time I have followed a game development like this. Monthly updates and the like - very awesome.

Saabynator

Dygz wrote: »

Nerror wrote: »

No. You don't do world bosses, sieges, caravan pvp, node wars, major naval content, high end crafting and gathering at level 1.

In Ashes, do.
I dunno what you think "high end" is during points of time when there are no "high end" Nodes.
Ashes is Open World. There is nothing gating people from participating in those activities at Level 1.

I would think there is high level places. How else would level 50 get to do stuff, if everywhere is the same? There needs to be high level areas and those areas would be near or in node territory, wouldnt it?

daveywavey

I remember original Guild Wars taking ages to reach max level, and currently in ESO you can do it in under 2hrs.

45 days is probably about right.

Saabynator

daveywavey wrote: »

I remember original Guild Wars taking ages to reach max level, and currently in ESO you can do it in under 2hrs.

45 days is probably about right.

You can do it in less then 2 hours!?

daveywavey

Saabynator wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

I remember original Guild Wars taking ages to reach max level, and currently in ESO you can do it in under 2hrs.

45 days is probably about right.

You can do it in less then 2 hours!?

Up to Level 50, yep.

Not the additional Champion Points that kick in after that, but yeah, people sell Power-Levelling Services for new players.

CaIwA

slower

Aszkalon

daveywavey wrote: »

I remember original Guild Wars taking ages to reach max level, and currently in ESO you can do it in under 2hrs.

45 days is probably about right.

Could we argue that then, only "the first" Character should take about 80 to 90 Days ?

And that after You levelled your first Character to Level 50 - no matter which Character of all Characters created that would be,

you would then afterwards get a certain Stat, Buff, whatever - for your remaining Characters - so that they can level somewhat faster than your first Character ?

Just a Suggestion.

Hinotori

Personally I'd enjoy slower. I feel like ashes is a very journey focused mmo with the dynamic content thats planned. So I think having the longer journey to also level up matches that aim.

tautau

@Aszkalon Regarding the buff for fast levelling for your 2nd (and later) characters, I think that the knowledge you gain from levelling your first character will automatically make levelling subsequent characters much faster, right? So no 'buff' is needed, it happens automatically.

Aszkalon

tautau wrote: »

@Aszkalon Regarding the buff for fast levelling for your 2nd (and later) characters, I think that the knowledge you gain from levelling your first character will automatically make levelling subsequent characters much faster, right? So no 'buff' is needed, it happens automatically.

True that.

It might differ a bit regarding of how the Gameplay feels when playing the different Classes - but once You levelled up a Character once, you are familiar with the levelling Process.

SnowElf

I'm in favor of it. I think that it should be a time consuming feat. Players should have to invest ample time into their character and enjoy doing so. Some MMOs feel cheapened by how quickly a character can be leveled, deflating the experience and value of what it means to gain levels. When MMOs actively cause the playerbase to invest in their characters, these players are given a sense of reward for their hard work.

There is one concept however that always perturbed me, and that is reputation grinding. I just find it incredibly dull, lackluster and monotonous. If MMOs introduce reputations, I hope that they are excessively thought out in order to be enjoyable for the player experience.

TheHiddenDaggerInn

This subject has received a good amount of interest, I decided to make a video on it, in a new series I'm starting. I would appreciate if you commented in here giving the idea some support as I believe it will reach a much larger audience on the YouTube.

With almost everyone agreeing this is something that should be seriously looked it, now would be the time to get LOT's of opinions. Thanks all, and thanks again to Flanker the OP for this awesome post!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4hLdkwWoy8

Nerror

Dygz wrote: »

Nerror wrote: »

No. You don't do world bosses, sieges, caravan pvp, node wars, major naval content, high end crafting and gathering at level 1.

In Ashes, people do.
I dunno what you think "high end" is during points of time when there are no "high end" Nodes.
Ashes is Open World. There is nothing gating people from participating in those activities at Level 1.

No. A level 1 will have close to zero effect on those systems, if they can even participate. The game needs people who can pull their own weight.

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