Please add pvp to class reveals

Moving forward with future class reveals, I think it would be extremely beneficial to have a 10-15 minute duel session at the end if the stream for us to gauge the abilities in real time, and we could see perspectives from other classes. Fighter v tank, fighter v cleric,
V ranger/mage etc. I think that with the current mob/Npc AI as a work in progress we would be able to make much better observations seeing combat in a player vs player scenario and in turn give better feedback

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Ludullu

Songcaller wrote: »

I'm sure you could level in sieges if you assist killing the captains and npc guards (unless these give no experience). Sure, it might take a long time to level that way but participation at any level was a mantra for the sieges last I heard.

Even if guards do give xp, you'd need to kill them first. And unless they're so damn weak that they're completely useless against anyone but the weakest players - you ain't killing them.

Also, npc guards are literal PVE

So you'd still be pveing

Songcaller

I never said we won't be pveing, I said pvp is more percentage than 5%. Also, quests are pvp because I'm competing against everyone else to complete the quests first. Especially in a divine node for mayor for example. Also, xp gain will be spread amongst a group and possibly more will be divided between those that can use the xp rather than those who do not need the xp.

Ludullu

Songcaller wrote: »

Also, quests are pvp because I'm competing against everyone else to complete the quests first. Especially in a divine node for mayor for example.

Imo that's pve competition rather than a pvp one, unless you're directly fighting those other players, but then we'd be getting into a discussion of "is attacking a green player considered "pvp"?". And that's a whole different thing. I doubt that majority of questers will gladly fight back though, so there's that.

Songcaller wrote: »

Also, xp gain will be spread amongst a group and possibly more will be divided between those that can use the xp rather than those who do not need the xp.

Yes, I mentioned that in the "unless your friends powerlvl you" part

Songcaller

Hmm. I consider military, economic, scientific and divine node to be pvp contestation for mayorship. You are directly competing with other players. Then kill quests are pve, cryptic quests are puzzles and activity quests are dynamic. Even though some want an endless levelling process the levelling process will end and all that will be left could be sanctioned pvp which has less death penalties thus less pve to replace lost xp.

Ludullu

Songcaller wrote: »

Even though some want an endless levelling process the levelling process will end and all that will be left could be sanctioned pvp which has less death penalties thus less pve to replace lost xp.

But gear grind never truly ends, and that shit is pure pve. It could be argued that all of that pve will be highly contested at that point and pvp/e will be as close in ratio as possible (and I hope that is the case), but that can only be proven after full release, so we won't really know either way until then.

Pawkets

I think this would be a good addition to the streams. One of my biggest questions from the fighter stream is how do the charges interact with someone else's charge? Yes I can charge into the backline in world pvp, but what if another fighter charges me mid charge. Does that cancel mine? Or does it leave the other fighter halfway in the middle of my charge? Or does he follow me to my target?

Songcaller

Same applies to the Cleric step to ability. Would the cleric follow the fighter if step to and charge are activated at the same time?

Pyrolol

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

Like i suggested in main thread. A proper 3v3 or something would be nice. Not too big, or too small, but good size to showcase class in action and in group combat.

Love me a good 3v3

Xeeg

Sathrago wrote: »

It doesnt have to be pvp for me, but it might help push steven to l2p or get someone who will keybind their spells so theres no standing around trying to click a skill in the middle of combat.

Especially when they are trying to showcase a "momentum" mechanic and Steven backs off after each attack and looks at the scenery while waiting on CDs.

Chicago

Sathrago wrote: »

It doesnt have to be pvp for me, but it might help push

Liniker wrote: »

Yes, agree, would like if they had the devs make at least like 3 duels, showing both devs PoVs and Steven's outsider PoV on the third fight, shouldnt take more than 10 minutes for this would give a better look at the archetype in action

Definitely!

Chicago

Liniker wrote: »

Yes, agree, would like if they had the devs make at least like 3 duels, showing both devs PoVs and Steven's outsider PoV on the third fight, shouldnt take more than 10 minutes for this would give a better look at the archetype in action

Definitley agree, I dont think it would be a huge time commitment either because it would be nice to watch without editing

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