10-15 SECONDS TTK

According to steven the TTK will be 10-15 seconds , are you guys ready to have fun getting 1 shot all the time , gonna be fun for a lot of the people who loved the game having a 30 sec-1m TTK

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ShadowVen

Yeah I agree with the OP. I'm not a fan of the quick TTK's. However, I do trust steven and their team. He said they did in-house testing on it and said that the previous TTK time was "not fun". Maybe the way they are developing the game could have it become a better thing, who knows. If they wanted to drop it from the 30 sec to approx 1min, I would've liked it to be around 20-30 seconds instead of the 10-15secs.

Depraved

Saabynator wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

damn every time i look away, there are 15-20 replies on this thread.

anyway...

nikr and mag sitting on a tree...

I would say, its hard for Nikr to be taken seriously, when you read his name out loud.

I DID IM NOT GETTING IT. HELP

it sounds like nicker?

wait...wait, no It ...

Ludullu

Depraved wrote: »

t sound like nicker?

The funny thing is that it has no vowel after K, but english speakers are not used to that kind of pronunciation, so the only thing their mind goes is to the infamous word.

Depraved

NiKr wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

t sound like nicker?

The funny thing is that it has no vowel after N, but english speakers are not used to that kind of pronunciation, so the only thing their mind goes is to the infamous word.

I pronounced it several times and didn't get it until I typed it...

Ludullu

Depraved wrote: »

I pronounced it several times and didn't get it until I typed it...

Be happy that you're not as usa-brainrotted as some people out there

Individuated Soul

Stop derailing this post with BS. Keep it on topic. His name is fine. Stop projecting your bias to his name.

Dygz

i is not a vowel?

Ludullu

Dygz wrote: »

i is not a vowel?

My bad, didn't catch the mistype

I meant K.

CROW3

NiKr wrote: »

Mag7spy wrote: »

Average skill is not the only thing, average gear is what he had directly mentioned.

When I say "average" I mean average. The "70% of players will experience the ttk that Steven mentioned" average.

That average includes everything, skill, gear, lvls, whateverthefuckelse.

It'll be interesting to test this fully, and see how it iterates over A2. I suspect once they turn on the pvp greenlight, many players will be dead very quickly. It would be funny if there were a real-time heat map of pvp-related deaths by level on some Intrepid analytics dashboard. Green to red in seconds.

Depraved

NiKr wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

I pronounced it several times and didn't get it until I typed it...

Be happy that you're not as usa-brainrotted as some people out there

that word is pretty common in my country (in spanish of course). everybody uses it. no one cries about racism where I live lol.
ppl call me whitey and blondie and al sort of stuffs too (in spanish). no one cares here lol

Otr

NiKr wrote: »

Mag7spy wrote: »

So are you of the mind set an average gear player that is lvl 10, an average geared player that is lvl 35 and a averaged gear scored player of lvl 50 have the same TTk or do not based on their progression in the game?

I expect the ttk to become faster at higher lvls, so the currently presented ttk (at supposedly "middle lvls") would be even shorter at max lvl.

If Intrepid decide to give us way more defensive tools than offensive - cool, I'd be all for that. But from all the game's I've seen - the higher the lvl, the faster you can kill your opponent.

Steven said initially "average level characters" and corrected himself and used the "same level characters".
That means character level is not important.
Average gear score is the important reference because that might be the most used even if players will have better gear.
If weapons attack bonus will grow faster with tier level than armor, that will make the TTK lower and battles faster for higher skilled players. Which is ok for the resource sink. The more they die the faster they switch back to average gear. Or they will spend more time farming epic resources in this game where scarcity is a feature.

But why you assume the TTK for lower quality gear to be faster?
The diagram for TTK doesn't need to be a Bell curve.
(Edit: I just noticed that the bell curve is meant to represent the distribution of tiers across population)
I think it will be a stair, with lower TTK when both players have poor gear and then increases as they transition to uncommon, rare, heroic, epic ...

If the TTK would increase, it would cause problems because would mean armor score grows faster than weapons. So special NPCs would require epic gear and players with rare gear would have no chance.

Now the question is what tier you think the "average" Steven used indicate, when you look at tier levels:
- Poor.[6]
- Common.[7][8]
- Uncommon.[7][9]
- Rare.[7][10]
- Heroic.[7][11]
- Epic.[7][12]
- Legendary.[7][13]
- Artifact.[7]

Ludullu

Otr wrote: »

If weapons attack bonus will grow faster with tier level than armor, that will make the TTK lower and battles faster for higher skilled players. Which is ok for the resource sink. The more they die the faster they switch back to average gear. Or they will spend more time farming epic resources in this game where scarcity is a feature.

And that is exactly what I'm expecting.

Otr wrote: »

INow the question is what tier you think the "average" Steven used indicate, when you look at tier levels

Common, because I expect it to be truly common and rare things to be truly rare.

I expect Artifacts to be singular, Legends to be maybe around a dozen in quantity, Epic maybe a few dozen, Heroic ~100, Rare - a few hundred, Uncommon - ~1-3k, Common to be a dozen thousands, Poors - literally everywhere.

All of that being shared amongst the 50k accounts on every server. And considering that those accounts will have alts - I except majority of characters to have poor-common gear.

Also, this is in the context of gear lvls as well, so some people might be wearing slightly OEd lvl45 gear of Rare quality which might be on par with base lvl Uncommon lvl50. Or smth like that.

akabear

When I played L2, the player classes and levels were very distinct due to the armor and weapons gating by class and level. There were no cosmetics and/or skins when I first played.

With great ability to decern the primary targets in pvp, then a short TTK was quite acceptable.

AoC will not likely have that clarity. With mutliple armors, and cosmetic skins, there will need to be a need to be activity in pvp to first determine what class you are facing and thereby what strategy to use.

There is also no current plans for quick teleport to town or clan hall.. Hence, run (if you can) or fight (if you can ) or be killed choices. L2, there was there instant port to town to fall backon should a fight go the wrong way or you are jumped. AoC not.

For these main reasons, I think there must be a little more time in TTK.

Otr

NiKr wrote: »

Otr wrote: »

If weapons attack bonus will grow faster with tier level than armor, that will make the TTK lower and battles faster for higher skilled players. Which is ok for the resource sink. The more they die the faster they switch back to average gear. Or they will spend more time farming epic resources in this game where scarcity is a feature.

And that is exactly what I'm expecting.

Otr wrote: »

INow the question is what tier you think the "average" Steven used indicate, when you look at tier levels

Common, because I expect it to be truly common and rare things to be truly rare.

I expect Artifacts to be singular, Legends to be maybe around a dozen in quantity, Epic maybe a few dozen, Heroic ~100, Rare - a few hundred, Uncommon - ~1-3k, Common to be a dozen thousands, Poors - literally everywhere.

All of that being shared amongst the 50k accounts on every server. And considering that those accounts will have alts - I except majority of characters to have poor-common gear.

Also, this is in the context of gear lvls as well, so some people might be wearing slightly OEd lvl45 gear of Rare quality which might be on par with base lvl Uncommon lvl50. Or smth like that.

Poor people will be poor in a world of commoners.
Role playing a beggar will be easy.
People will have bigger problems than TTK

Saabynator

NiKr wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

t sound like nicker?

The funny thing is that it has no vowel after K, but english speakers are not used to that kind of pronunciation, so the only thing their mind goes is to the infamous word.

Be honest dude, you made your name to sound like that. You find it funny or whatever.

Saabynator

NiKr wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

I pronounced it several times and didn't get it until I typed it...

Be happy that you're not as usa-brainrotted as some people out there

Im danish, and I got it right away

. You dont need to be rottbrained to see you wanted to have fun with the word.

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Ludullu

Saabynator wrote: »

Im danish, and I got it right away . You dont need to be rottbrained to see you wanted to have fun with the word.

Guess you're just racist then, if that's immediately where you mind went.

Aszkalon

Six Seconds. Seven at most.

WHEN SOMEONE " DOESN'T - FIGHT BACK " - You shouldn't "NEED" - a tiny ETERNITY to kill him/her.

Azherae

Aszkalon wrote: »

Six Seconds. Seven at most.

WHEN SOMEONE " DOESN'T - FIGHT BACK " - You shouldn't "NEED" - a tiny ETERNITY to kill him/her.

It's the characters that are fighting, though, and that will always factor, in this type of game.

If I build enough evasion (to the point of giving up any other sensible thing), I generally 'should' be able to double the time it takes for you to kill me even if I do nothing at all, because that's the type of game Ashes is.

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