Please show the exact enemy Hp

Everything looks great in this video except one HUGE thing. Pls show us the exact Life of the enemy. It looks so unsatisfying to make your whole combo and the hp bar doesnt move at all. You have no idea about so much things, that arent worth loosing.

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Laetitian

It's intentional. It's to make Corruption riskier. You can read up on the highly fleshed-out opinions of proponents and the opposition of the mechanic in threads like the one linked here.
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A large portion of the discussion is about distinctions between scenarios involving already flagged combattants.
Which might be relevant here. I could definitely see combattants in wars showing exact HP.

Personally, I've acquired a taste for it. I think it's an interesting dynamic to have to make risky decisions about the cooldowns you expend.

More important side note:
Suggestions like this one in the dev update feedback thread would probably be a big step towards the best of both worlds. More feedback whenever your abilities connect by making the attacked section(s) of the HP bar flash in white (much like most games already do it when you strike a hit, only they flash the exact amount that is removed afterwards), but still preserving the obfuscated information.

Liniker

no Its great for PvP that you cant see the exact HP

Undead Canuck

Zirdelas wrote: »

Everything looks great in this video except one HUGE thing. Pls show us the exact Life of the enemy. It looks so unsatisfying to make your whole combo and the hp bar doesnt move at all. You have no idea about so much things, that arent worth loosing.

What is wrong with the health being limited to bars? It makes choosing your fights a bit more challenging.

Ludullu

Please don't show any HP. It's bad to the corruption system.

Ruerik

Part of the fun here is not knowing exactly what is left.

I wouldn't be opposed to some audio or visual clues, like a grunt vs a scream or something when hit at high vs low HP.

Garrtok

100%, just show the healthbar. You play differently if the Enemy has 2% or 20% health left.

Mag7spy

Better to not be shown, use some insight and skill to know what you are doing. Or risk using more resources to make sure you confirm someone.

Aszkalon

NiKr wrote: »

Please don't show any HP. It's bad to the corruption system.

Please explain.

I don't get it yet. (.__.)

Depraved

Aszkalon wrote: »

NiKr wrote: »

Please don't show any HP. It's bad to the corruption system.

Please explain.

I don't get it yet. (.__.)

long story short, you remove the risk of going red while attacking someone being hit by mobs, but you get all the reward. let me know if you want me to elaborate ;3

Sathrago

Garrtok wrote: »

100%, just show the healthbar. You play differently if the Enemy has 2% or 20% health left.

This is exactly why its being obscured. You (the royal You) play like a shitty rat bastard if you see someone at 10% hp and feel like its a free kill. Theres hardly any thought there other than how many other players are nearby to kill you if you go red.

With it obscured you now have to think harder about your choice which is the whole point.

Legi

I like it the way it is. Besides having advantages for the corruption system I think it makes PvP more interesting. I am against showing nothing though, cause that would be a tad too unrealistic for me. You see if someone is hurt and how much to a degree.

Voeltz

I think its funny how people believe this will do anything meaningful for Corruption. All it means is someone can take you down to 25% hp or less which can definitely still lead to your death if you have enough mobs on you, and there's 0 consequences for them. Rats are gonna rat as long as the Corruption System allows it. Negatives far outweigh the benefits which are near 0.

nanfoodle

I agree with OP. I get not knowing some mob type I have never seen before. My char should know what a humanoid looks like at 5% beat up to mostly dead. In short Toblathe.

Solvryn

Zirdelas wrote: »

Everything looks great in this video except one HUGE thing. Pls show us the exact Life of the enemy. It looks so unsatisfying to make your whole combo and the hp bar doesnt move at all. You have no idea about so much things, that arent worth loosing.

Better learn to deal with minimum data given to you and learning how to make good judgement calls.

It's the best thing to happen since sliced bread, learn to actually fight and not be a dopamine crank who just likes to see big chunky numbers.

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Saabynator

Zirdelas wrote: »

Everything looks great in this video except one HUGE thing. Pls show us the exact Life of the enemy. It looks so unsatisfying to make your whole combo and the hp bar doesnt move at all. You have no idea about so much things, that arent worth loosing.

Hell no, I like it. I would keep it to 3 bars if I could. The guessing makes an extra layer.

Saabynator

nanfoodle wrote: »

I agree with OP. I get not knowing some mob type I have never seen before. My char should know what a humanoid looks like at 5% beat up to mostly dead. In short Toblathe.

You sure? Professional boxers gets this stuff wrong

Sathrago

Voeltz wrote: »

I think its funny how people believe this will do anything meaningful for Corruption. All it means is someone can take you down to 25% hp or less which can definitely still lead to your death if you have enough mobs on you, and there's 0 consequences for them. Rats are gonna rat as long as the Corruption System allows it. Negatives far outweigh the benefits which are near 0.

yes, but 25% is more of a chance than 2% or 10%. Honestly they caved a bit when they decided to let you see it in brackets like it is now, im pretty sure it used to be planned for not showing it. I would rather it not show because like you said 25% is still low enough in many situations to let people act on that rat mentality.

Garrtok

Sathrago wrote: »

Garrtok wrote: »

100%, just show the healthbar. You play differently if the Enemy has 2% or 20% health left.

This is exactly why its being obscured. You (the royal You) play like a shitty rat bastard if you see someone at 10% hp and feel like its a free kill. Theres hardly any thought there other than how many other players are nearby to kill you if you go red.

With it obscured you now have to think harder about your choice which is the whole point.

It's not about killstealing (which is more a ego problem). But if your target has less health you don't cast your super spell.

Voeltz

Sathrago wrote: »

yes, but 25% is more of a chance than 2% or 10%.

25% or less depending on how hard they get hit. The odds of dropping someone to exactly 25% are extremely low especially since they have no idea whether someone's at 26% or 49% before hand. Either way, they can simply use weaker attacks to get it lower.

Sathrago wrote: »

Honestly they caved a bit when they decided to let you see it in brackets like it is now, im pretty sure it used to be planned for not showing it. I would rather it not show because like you said 25% is still low enough in many situations to let people act on that rat mentality.

That's because they know it's necessary for functional combat. Only games that can operate without health bars are first person and/or ones with fast TTK, typically shooters. This is because they have other ways of indicating damage like blood on your character or hit markers. Neither of these things would be sufficient in a 3rd person MMO and neither are these fractional bars.

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