No addons what so ever, under any circumstances.

I was just logging off World of Warcraft's Season of Discovery, and i got reminded of the devastating effects of addons.

I still remember how the slippery slope started in Vanilla, with the usual excuses of just having better UI and accessibility.

Fast forward to the current day, and you see a game that has been turned into a conveyor belt single-player experience.

Quest addons that bypasses the reasons why the quests exist in the first place.

Addons that tell you information about the game you shouldn't have access to. Like enemy player hp,buffs and their durations.

Addons force the game devs to start designing raids and bosses around existing addons, making them garbage.

It is not an exaggeration that addons will destroy this game if they are allowed to be used.

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BlackBrony

I don't enjoy addons, because it changes the experience from the base game and sometimes makes things that were harder, a lot easier.
Now, is information good? Well, that's basically the question regarding many uses of the addon.

KingDDD

Taerrik wrote: »

I doubt its possible for the client to be kept in the dark about all of the information and still function without noticeable delay.

I know we've been focusing a lot on strictly DPS addons and "combat assistance" cheat apps. But it might be more useful to Intrepid if we as a community started leaving feedback on the kind of addons we have liked and used in other games.

Within reason I mean. There is tons of stuff they won't give us, because it is part of the game for that information to not be available, such as market data across the world. And also keep in mind probably a lot of systems players normally build addons for Intrepid will not look at until much later in alpha2 or post launch even.

Some examples that I know of.

1) The combat log. I hope what they give us is as detailed as possible. With time stamps down to the ms on when abilities happen. When things crit or dodge. When my buffs cause allies to crit or do more damage and also report to me how much I raised their damage by while the buff was on. Let me download the log for offline filtering and sorting and share with friends for inspection if we want to compare notes.

2) The UI. I need to customize every aspect of everything. Placement, size, text size, opacity. Buff/Debuff priority. Let me display as much additional information or as few information as I want. Allow me to have multiple chat windows open for different things (I need them when I RP for example). Short term procs we get I would also like to be able to seperate from my buffbar or hotbar and put somewhere I can see with peripheral vision (wildstar had a good default system for this)

3) Interfaces with various systems. Let me customize them. Such as my character screen, or market, or crafting.

4) For the love of all that is holy in RP and storytelling, I need a good system for taking screenshots. FF14 Gpose system has taken more thousands of hours out of my life to the point I take more screenshots than any other game.

5) .... (I dont actually have more, was just hoping to start a feedback trend so we can turn the thread into something useful rather than a 2nd dps meter megathread)

This is the best take in this thread.

People should post old or current screenshots of their UIs to illustrate the levels of customization wanted to the UI team. I'd love to see a back and forth as to what is intended to have based on those screenshots and reasons why they aren't adding types of UI customization players have used in the past.

Texas

One thing with UI customization. Have different configurations saveable and loadable. I like different setups to tank vs dps vs heal vs pvp. Save/load functionality is important (especially for healers).

Astronaute

I think most people want addons for pure UI optimization, it’s a must in all honesty. The team should 100% give as un API to create addons, but that API should be limited to the UI:

move all the available information / buttons / unit bars anywhere we want
change colors/style/icons of all UI elements
reorganize buttons and action bars the way we want
any information that game already provides, should be customizable by users, it’s that simple

Of course, any addon modifying the gameplay should not be allowed or even possible through this API.

Aszkalon

I don't use Addons.

BlackBrony

Astronaute wrote: »

I think most people want addons for pure UI optimization, it’s a must in all honesty. The team should 100% give as un API to create addons, but that API should be limited to the UI:
move all the available information / buttons / unit bars anywhere we want

change colors/style/icons of all UI elements

reorganize buttons and action bars the way we want

any information that game already provides, should be customizable by users, it’s that simple

Of course, any addon modifying the gameplay should not be allowed or even possible through this API.

I give you know DECURSE addon. It will show a large screen telling you when to decurse and who to decurse.
Or who's stunned.

Astronaute

BlackBrony wrote: »

I give you know DECURSE addon. It will show a large screen telling you when to decurse and who to decurse.
Or who's stunned.

Game already shows this information. If users decide to present it differently, I see no harm in that.

Most people complaining about addons have those altering the gameplay in mind, not informational, harmless ones. Those are in the UI category and should be in the game for convenience because everyone is different and should have the possibility to adapt the game interface to their needs.

On the other hand, we should never have addons indicating what to do next or providing information not already present on the screen. Those are the ones that are controversial, I don’t want them anywhere near this game.

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