daveywavey wrote: » NiTr08 wrote: » For those who want to defend this $100+ alpha access, go ahead—give me a solid reason. It's their product, they can charge whatever they want for it.
NiTr08 wrote: » For those who want to defend this $100+ alpha access, go ahead—give me a solid reason.
LaZzIsFree wrote: » daveywavey wrote: » NiTr08 wrote: » For those who want to defend this $100+ alpha access, go ahead—give me a solid reason. It's their product, they can charge whatever they want for it. obviously you are totally unaware about costumer protection ..... if i sell you something promising the delivery and what it will be you cant do whatever you want .... if they would invent a new kind of tv and promise to ship it until november .... and already sold it to you ... you can get a refund if they break their promise .... same here i live in europe and here the laws are very clear about selling stuff and not deliver. if you sell a tv and a toaster is in the package its very clear that you have to refund the costumer ... i already send a mail to the german institute of costumer protection to look into it.
daveywavey wrote: » NiTr08 wrote: » For those who want to defend this $100+ alpha access, go ahead—give me a solid reason. It's their product, they can charge whatever they want for it. The fact that people are paying it shows that they've set it right.
Arya_Yeshe wrote: » LOL, its not a cash grab at all, this key will make almost no money, Intrepid will get nearly nothing from this, it is very affordable if you consider you have access to future stuff
Githal wrote: » I would bet you expecting full gameplay experience on october too right? When you realize that its true alpha testing we will see you here in the comments again hearing how "they lied to you that you will get the full game, and instead you are tester"
LaZzIsFree wrote: » obviously those 40 million dollar raised were not enough ... .hence he is selling keys again lol ... having "fully funded the game" and still need to sell it to people is a cashgrab lol .... if it is true that they dont need our money ... why not make it ftp ... they would get all the testers they need instantly lol ... people in this forum are so emotional invested they are blind to this scam lol Githal wrote: » I would bet you expecting full gameplay experience on october too right? When you realize that its true alpha testing we will see you here in the comments again hearing how "they lied to you that you will get the full game, and instead you are tester" obviously attack the person not the issue lol ... poor lad Obviously you dont even get when you get scammed lol ... i paid 250$ to get involved directly in the project ... i wanted to fall through the map, clip through walls, find duping glitches and document them and help them fix their buggy mess ... they already sold A2 keys to 150k+ people .... and have yet to proof that they can host servers to hold those people without queues ... i wanted access ... before other people who didnt want to take the risk of funding this pipedream ... i want that risk i took to be honored by giving me access earlier then those who didnt take the risk ... that all.. now intrepid is not only make me wait as long as anybody else ... but they make it cheaper to get in ... if there will be "too many people, therefore we have queues" i will be PISSED af ... this feels like a slap in the face... i want access before other people ... thats what i want ... if they need more people AFTER THEY HAVE GIVEN A2 BACKERS ACCESS im fine with that ...BUT NOT GIVING people like me access beforehand is malicous ..... if they had said, yeah we honor our OG backers by having them : A2 spottest from Oktober to dezember and involve us in the process of getting the servers up to speed to hold 5+ days load and then call it Beta 1/2 from dezember to mai ..... to get them to 24/7 and call it Beta 3 when 24/7 goes live in mai and sell BETA keys for 30$ ... i wouldnt have any problem with that, my problem is that i get treated like everybody else who just joined the aoc project and can jump in at the last moment for way less than me... and IMO 150k people are wayyyyyy more than anybody could need for SPOTTESTING ... he didnt give those 150k+ people ANY OPPORTUNITY to give ANY feedback .... so HOW can he tell that he needs more people ???? anybody who believes this "need more testers bs" is delusional... 150k people beeing not enough even though they didnt have any access until now is just a blatant lie and steven is yet to prove that actually something will be launched AT ALL ..... till this point this is a scam ... until he delivers something .... i dont expect a game... a want to get WHAT HE HAS ... whatever that is ...
TheAshen wrote: » @LaZzIsFree You okay man? That was hard to read. But I agree with at least one part. Overpopulating the Alpha. I may just be speaking for myself here but if I've paid 250 to take part in something I plan to do so. Given how committed the community is I'd like to imagine they're underestimating the retention and consistency of the testers. Assuming they've sold at least 100k keys and only half intend to test and only half of those are online at one time. That would still be a 7k queue based on the 3k CCU and 6 realms they quoted at start. I'm also aware they can create more realms as needed but that's not without cost. They can also expand the CCU but that has its own limitations and risks. Personally I think they should've waited to see how full their realms were before selling additional keys but judging how messy the key situation was, I expect a rocky start to Alpha 2.
Githal wrote: » This is true...BUT... they need testers for the following 1-2 years? How many of the current players will keep logging in every day for 1 year straight? 20-30% of current alpha testers? So ofc the start will be rocky. Tho i agree that they can just put some more key sells after the initial testers wave diminishes, So maybe they could have removed the first key sells that start from 8 november, and instead put keys for phases 2 and 3
Githal wrote: » obviously you are clueless and write for the sake of writing without making any research. Those who bought the 250$ keys before start testing on 25 October. THe keys that are sold now are with earliest start date of 8 November. This means you have 6 days head start.
