nanfoodle wrote: » AidanKD wrote: » I think one to note is that the game wasn't going to have any voice acting since it would inflate the budget. I understand you can't replace proper voice acting - but if the choice is no voice acting, or AI voice acting and the budget gets to be put into the actual gaming then I don't see an issue. In an MMO I think it's more acceptable where this isn't a story-focused MMO. I like it more when you can, for people like you, skip the dialog and just get your quest marker. But that Voice Acting is there for people like myself that want to care about the NPC I am helping and each quest has the potential to drop bits of lore that makes the worlds a living breathing place I feel like I am part of. Even if the AI Voice Acting is just an 8 of 10. I will be thrilled it was added.
AidanKD wrote: » I think one to note is that the game wasn't going to have any voice acting since it would inflate the budget. I understand you can't replace proper voice acting - but if the choice is no voice acting, or AI voice acting and the budget gets to be put into the actual gaming then I don't see an issue. In an MMO I think it's more acceptable where this isn't a story-focused MMO.
Caeryl wrote: » Really don't hold much respect for artists, I see.
Flanker wrote: » Caeryl wrote: » Really don't hold much respect for artists, I see. Well, apparently it's time for your unscheduled eye check then, as I never said anything bad about artists. Was inventing and using advanced machinery and conveyors on factories disrespectful to workers? Obviously not Was inventing engines and cars disrespectful to bicycles? Obviously not If tomorrow AI saves your relative from a disease by providing a more accurate diagnosis compared to a human, all your virtue signalling will evaporize on the spot. Even it takes 10x more water and energy than it does now It's called technologic progress and it's a part of reality And reality doesn't care about your feelings I don't care how the end result will be achieved when it comes to Ashes. The only thing that matters is whether that result will be good or not
Caeryl wrote: » Machinery doing physically harmful menial jobs is directly good for people as a whole.
Caeryl wrote: » Predictive technology that is used by experts to save lives is directly good for people as a whole.
Caeryl wrote: » Replacing artists with soulless machines that are literally not capable of creative thought and further devaluing artists of all types is bad.
Caeryl wrote: » It's bizarre that either of these are controversial statements to anyone.
Caeryl wrote: » Same as cryptocurrency is just a scam that got popular
Flanker wrote: » Caeryl wrote: » Machinery doing physically harmful menial jobs is directly good for people as a whole. Same can be said about AI voiceover - it is good that people can use this opportunity as it saves a lot of time and money. And not ALL jobs that disappeared were actually harmful. They disappeared because they could be replaced - that's the primary reason. Caeryl wrote: » Predictive technology that is used by experts to save lives is directly good for people as a whole. There are many things that are "good for people as a whole" that, unfortunately, also bring negative consequences. Invention of an engine and cars is good, but burning huge amounts of fuel is not. Same applies to AI. Caeryl wrote: » Replacing artists with soulless machines that are literally not capable of creative thought and further devaluing artists of all types is bad. According to whom? So-called AI "art" has it's niche. It can't be compared to human artists (at least for now) in terms of quality, but it may still be pretty helpful in some cases.In many cases, actually. You used the argument that "machinery reduced the amount of harmful menial jobs". Well, AI removed some boring and repetitive jobs - isn't this "Good" for people? And if it's not - how come? Caeryl wrote: » It's bizarre that either of these are controversial statements to anyone. Exactly, but not for the reason you imply. The world is not "good" or "bad" with rare exceptions, there is plenty of shades of grey. Dividing everything in good and bad only is kind of childish. Caeryl wrote: » Same as cryptocurrency is just a scam that got popular A conclusion of a true expert, I see.
Caeryl wrote: » Art is not a 'boring repetitive task', it's a creative process, but congrats, you've definitely shown me that you can't be counted on to respect artists if that's how you'll openly talk about their work.
Flanker wrote: » So-called AI "art" has it's niche.
Flanker wrote: » It can't be compared to human artists (at least for now) in terms of quality, but it may still be pretty helpful in some cases.In many cases, actually.
Flanker wrote: » You used the argument that "machinery reduced the amount of harmful menial jobs". Well, AI removed some boring and repetitive jobs - isn't this "Good" for people? And if it's not - how come?
Caeryl wrote: » That you fell for techbro traps hook, line, and sinker isn't a good look either.
Caeryl wrote: » Oh well, the Noanni treatment was long overdue anyway.