Corruption system = anti pvp system

Every server is a PVE server with small pockets of PvP allowed to happen. These pockets are end game currently and there is zero PvP else where.

I attempted to PvP someone 2 levels higher then myself only to find them to run instead of fight. i chased and killed them.

i then lost all of my weapons for this. How is this balanced in any way he lost some gatherable goods I.E. moments of work where as i lost all of my gear progression for daring to PvP ONE PLAYER ONCE... NOT TWO NOT THREE NOT FOUR.

i killed one player and lost everything. This game is NOT a PVX GAME!!!

It was said to have an ANTI GRIEF system it's ANTI PvP system.

Clear and simple YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PVP ANYONE AT ANY TIME OUTSIDE OF THE LAWLESS ZONES...

IF PVP WAS A PART OF THIS GAME WHY ARE THERE ONLY 2 AREAS OUT OF THE ENTIRE ALPHA AND WHY ARE THE END GAME?!?!?! This game had one instance of asmongold getting camped and u respond with such over kill that it ruins the game for anyone else who enjoys fair pvp.

P.S. the fix is very simple PVP in the same level bracket or higher have no corruption unless you kill that same person more then once.. done idky we need to decimate and entire game claiming to be PVX because ONE streamer got ganked.

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bloodprophet

The system is buggy and not finished.

Sounds like you PK'd a guy and got corrupted,died and lost gear. Acting as intended.

Welcome to a real alpha TEST. It does need to be completed and tuned. Fortunately they have time to finish and tune the system.

PresentPotato

Working as intended B=====D

xstejisx

PresentPotato wrote: »

Every server is a PVE server with small pockets of PvP allowed to happen. These pockets are end game currently and there is zero PvP else where.

I attempted to PvP someone 2 levels higher then myself only to find them to run instead of fight. i chased and killed them.

i then lost all of my weapons for this. How is this balanced in any way he lost some gatherable goods I.E. moments of work where as i lost all of my gear progression for daring to PvP ONE PLAYER ONCE... NOT TWO NOT THREE NOT FOUR.

i killed one player and lost everything. This game is NOT a PVX GAME!!!

It was said to have an ANTI GRIEF system it's ANTI PvP system.

Clear and simple YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PVP ANYONE AT ANY TIME OUTSIDE OF THE LAWLESS ZONES...

IF PVP WAS A PART OF THIS GAME WHY ARE THERE ONLY 2 AREAS OUT OF THE ENTIRE ALPHA AND WHY ARE THE END GAME?!?!?! This game had one instance of asmongold getting camped and u respond with such over kill that it ruins the game for anyone else who enjoys fair pvp.

P.S. the fix is very simple PVP in the same level bracket or higher have no corruption unless you kill that same person more then once.. done idky we need to decimate and entire game claiming to be PVX because ONE streamer got ganked.

you killed a peaceful player and got corrupted when the player didn't want to fight. What's wrong with that? If the player wanted to pvp he would have answered you. You didn't lose all items, at 1 pk you lose 1 to 3 items. The player loses half of the resources from the inventory. A peaceful player can lose legendary and epic resources that cost many times more than your stuff and are MUCH harder to obtain. Have you tried mining legendary copper? You can spend all day and get nothing. Your stuff can be obtained in a couple hours in a good group on elite mobs. Your claims sound childish and unreasonable.

Lineage 2 had the same system and no one cried!

PresentPotato

I played the game on my first go around day one and I got legendary mats almost instantly so no they aren't as rare. And yes I lost all of my gear used for leveling period I.E. weapons.

PresentPotato

Also how can I grind mobs in a group without weapons moron

xstejisx

Not all ore can be found easily, such as copper and zinc are very scarce in the world, and mining legendary ore from them is incredibly hard. Just because you found legendary does not mean anything, I for 2 hours in Highwaymen Hills get 4 green bows with power up to 300 and 2 blue with power above 300. So there is nothing difficult, and if you lost the only one buy a standard 10 lvl at the merchant, everyone started with it.

Lodrig

Sounds like system is working as intended to me. Oportunistic ganker gets a sting sufficient to make them whine on forums, now he will think about who he kills next time.

PresentPotato

I've literally found every item u listed this weekend on my play through within 10 hours of playing. also if u have no money u cant go buy another weapon. if you lose both ur weapons u cant play the game thus my time has ended much like many others.

Taleof2Cities

PresentPotato wrote: »

I've literally found every item u listed this weekend on my play through within 10 hours of playing.

Instant rare drops, items, economy, and entire gear loss ... those won't stay that way as Alpha-2 progresses.

You're not playing a finished game.

xstejisx

PresentPotato wrote: »

I've literally found every item u listed this weekend on my play through within 10 hours of playing. also if u have no money u cant go buy another weapon. if you lose both ur weapons u cant play the game thus my time has ended much like many others.

If you don't have money, go gather resources and sell them, but make sure you don't get killed by players like you.

Elder Scrolls

Just don’t get killed next time you kill easy solution lol

DeeSav

You murder someone and then get killed in return and say the game is anti-pvp... please name an anti-pvp game in where this scenario could play out the same. Many open world PvP games are full loot and you lose everything on death. You aren't a fan of PvP, you are a fan of being an entitled child that thinks everyone exists solely for your entertainment. Actually plan for the consequence and have a weapon or 2 in storage or the money to buy another one before you decide to be an ass and chase someone around smacking them in the back till they die.

Noaani

This is a situation where looking to EVE is the right thing to do.

Players in EVE have the maxim "don't fly what you can't afford to lose", and in Ashes that would follow as "don't get corruption if you have anything you can't afford to lose".

If you only have the weapons you are currently using, and no backups at all, then you can't afford to lose those weapons and so probably shouldn't gain any corruption until you remedy that situation.

WIth this in mind, corruption isn't an anti-PvP system, it is an anti-mindlessness system.

Hutchy1989

Theres a lot of issues with the corruption system at the moment but OP is a perfect example of it working correctly lol

Grulsh

PresentPotato wrote: »

Every server is a PVE server with small pockets of PvP allowed to happen. These pockets are end game currently and there is zero PvP else where.

I attempted to PvP someone 2 levels higher then myself only to find them to run instead of fight. i chased and killed them.

i then lost all of my weapons for this. How is this balanced in any way he lost some gatherable goods I.E. moments of work where as i lost all of my gear progression for daring to PvP ONE PLAYER ONCE... NOT TWO NOT THREE NOT FOUR.

i killed one player and lost everything. This game is NOT a PVX GAME!!!

It was said to have an ANTI GRIEF system it's ANTI PvP system.

Clear and simple YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PVP ANYONE AT ANY TIME OUTSIDE OF THE LAWLESS ZONES...

IF PVP WAS A PART OF THIS GAME WHY ARE THERE ONLY 2 AREAS OUT OF THE ENTIRE ALPHA AND WHY ARE THE END GAME?!?!?! This game had one instance of asmongold getting camped and u respond with such over kill that it ruins the game for anyone else who enjoys fair pvp.

P.S. the fix is very simple PVP in the same level bracket or higher have no corruption unless you kill that same person more then once.. done idky we need to decimate and entire game claiming to be PVX because ONE streamer got ganked.

We need a pvp game that has some corruption mechanic, but not too harsh. Killing a player should not be punishable; however, it should have risks. You attack someone and are able to get THEIR loot, then you can also lose your own loot as well.

Outside of the new player areas, it should be 100% PVP IMO. That said, I do think if you attack someone, you should go red if they don’t attack back. Once red, you should not be able to enter town without the guards attacking you, like Ultima Online was. Then there can be a few Corruption towns spread around the entire world, but not in every biome.

Just create a system like UO and call it good!

Mork

If you're going to make corruption so punishing, just make the game pvp on and off... why going through all of this when all you are doing is essentialy pushing the rules that way.

Just make it on and off, while on has more xp while leveling and drops chance at max level.
And turn certain farming areas and open world dungeons into pvp on zones

focus on guild declaration of wars instead

SmileGurney

PresentPotato wrote: »

i killed one player and lost everything.

This guy didn't read the small print. Always read the small print Potato.

Uncommon Sense

Mork wrote: »

If you're going to make corruption so punishing, just make the game pvp on and off... why going through all of this when all you are doing is essentialy pushing the rules that way.

Just make it on and off, while on has more xp while leveling and drops chance at max level.
And turn certain farming areas and open world dungeons into pvp on zones

focus on guild declaration of wars instead

How about NO,
Coruption was part of the Kick starter brief, we cant have a bunch of non flagged gatherers and resources andies stripping the landscape in another node without repercussions...

What is preventing non flags from using their immunity to exploit or bait or work in cohoots with guilds to block or impact an opposing group?

The fact is have switchable PVE/PVP would break the game. But if you had been on the forums long enough you would already understand this as it has been explained many many many times before....

VampirePeterpan

I agree, I played EVE and Albion, their PVP system is good. If you are going to lose the gears with corruption, make gears like what is in EVE and Ablion that can be easily replaced and purchased, and in that situation, even at low level area, pve players can still farm the resource and supply the market with crafting system.

PresentPotato

Presently there is no reason to ever PvP in any case outside lawless zones. The system is too punishing and there is no incentive to PvP I.E. reward for the HUGE risk it presents. for (balance to exist ) the risk needs to match the reward. currently there is no reward enough to do any amount of PvP in a reg zone so why even bother having it at all ?

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